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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:33 pm 
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well i have tryed everything to start the ED that i have, i know it runs as i have driven it, it has sat down the driveway for 4 months while i convered it to manual, lowered it changed the rearmain seal and sump gasket all the coolent lines put a cam in it a 3.45 lsd and now it wont start,

so far i have cheeked

smartlock is working
timing is good redone myself
its got spark
its got fule
starter motor is working well

i just cant work it out iv even tryed putting fuel in the manafold and it wont start. tryed a new battery and that dosnt do anything,

im offering a prize of a carton of beer of your choice to some one who can get it to run,

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:51 pm 
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have you checked for the proper voltage and signals at the appropriate ecu pins for your model?
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:54 pm 
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cam was put in a tooth or 2 out?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:37 pm 
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Did you swap the wiring loom over when you did the manual conversion?
If so did you use the right manual ecu? (not a EF ecu?)
If you kepted the Auto wiring did you do the modifocation to it correctly?
Injectors are proberly blocked also.
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:42 pm 
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dizzy 180deg out?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:10 pm 
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So it doesnt turn over at all? or it does just wont fire?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:14 pm 
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ok to answer some questions the manual convertion was done to my EB xr6 and the lume was made for it and have done the nutral safty switch,

the motor cranks but dosnt fire,

the timing is set on the compretion stroke

the cam was put in and the timing chain didnt move as i had 5 cable ties around it.

i have done all the mods before to my eb fairmont and my EB xr6 and havent stuffed them up before. i have done a certifict 1 in mechanics,

but i still cant work out the issue with this car,

im stumped

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:21 pm 
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Sure ECU is not buggered? Tried putting another ECU in?

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:21 pm 
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have you checked fuel pressure and ign timing with a timing light

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:32 pm 
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have tryed the orginal ecu and the xr6 ecu no difference,

how do you cheek fuel presure, i have put fuel down the trought and no difference, and where do you get a timing light

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:46 pm 
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ok so regards fuel

have you check fuel pump and fuel relay are working (do u have a diagnostics connector in the fuses area?) u need to bridge some terminals to test the fuel electrical circuit...when u do this u should hear fuel flowing in the rail......see this thread http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopi ... lay%20test

then check that the injectors are pulsing (use test light or listen)

for fuel pressure u need a guage and T it into the fuel supply line..

check ign timing with a timing light bought from supa cheap or bunnings

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:58 pm 
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Loosen the Dizzy and have someone try to start the engine while you advance the dizzy as far as it goes than try retard as far as it goes. See what happens if you can get it running then get a timing light on it.

I had this problem when I did the MPI conversion on a EA CPI falcon. Did everything right(top dead centre on no1 compression stroke etc) but there is 2 positions the dizzy will slot into that seem right. 1 cog out caused it to be retarded by a s**t.

I fully advanced the dizzy and just got the car running under 3/4 throttle but nearly stalling. Checked the timing and the mark was right down below the a/c compressor. Pulled the dizzy back out slotted it in again and all good.

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:11 am 
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the cam was put in and the timing chain didnt move as i had 5 cable ties around it.


By 5 cable ties, I assume you mean you tied the chain to the sprocket, but did you keep the chain tight as well? If it gets loose, it could have slipped off down the bottom on the crank and be out a tooth.

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:15 am 
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i know you said smart lock is working but try changing the bcm and check fuses if someone hasnt mensioned it yet

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:05 am 
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i think its ether

new motor time or send it to the auto electrition

 

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