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 Post subject: Idle problem with new cam...
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:27 am 
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I have the 2222549 Crow cam installed, cranked her over, and there's a lot of lifter noise, and the car stalls. Mind you, these are words from the mechanic, I haven't actually heard it.

So what is it? Is the cam too big? Or does the computer have to learn the new cam? How capable is the computer of learning it? I'm not sure why all of a sudden so much lifter noise though!
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:41 am 
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did a mechanic do it for you?? then ring you up and tell you whats happenening??
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:55 am 
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I think the only improvement for the crow {2222549} cam is a better headers/exhaust.

Did you install it or the mechanic?

give it time.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:12 am 
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Sounds like what kermy said, the mechanic has installed the cam.
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 Post subject: I think it's too lumpy
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:11 pm 
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Yeah, the mechanic did it. He's good though; knows what he's doing. He's not prepared to hand it back to me the way it's running now.

I think I have to consider the 2222519 which, apparently, has a better idle quality. I should've went this way in the first place I reckon.

I still have a standard exhaust on mine. I think I'll swap the cam, because I would like a smooth idle.

I'll think about it and probably decide tomorrow, together with the mechanic.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:51 pm 
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Why does everyone want a smooth idle? A car lumping over at idle gives me a hard on ;) I shouldn't be allowed to drive my car with the stage 3 Alted/RPD cam haha :D

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:39 pm 
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Takes a few mins of a/c off then a few mins of a/c on for the ECU to relearn the idle. You/he may also have to adjust the base idle speed to compensate - especially if it stall when you put it in gear.

 

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Yeah, the lifter noise should go away once some oil gets back in the HLAs. If not, one is f**k or the mechanics reinstalled them with the plastic retainer. Which are s**t and should be removed - they're only there for Ford assembly line workers.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:47 pm 
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How do you adjust the base idle on an EF?
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 Post subject: Re: Idle problem with new cam...
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:08 pm 
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spvd02 wrote:
I have the 2222549 Crow cam installed, cranked her over, and there's a lot of lifter noise, and the car stalls. Mind you, these are words from the mechanic, I haven't actually heard it.

So what is it? Is the cam too big? Or does the computer have to learn the new cam? How capable is the computer of learning it? I'm not sure why all of a sudden so much lifter noise though!

did you get the one for EA-ED{2222549} .528" .500" lift. improved exhaust only?

OR
EF- EL {2232549} .476" .450" lift. computer re-calibration & improved exhaust?

 

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spvd02 wrote:
How do you adjust the base idle on an EF?


There's a screw adjustment on the throttle body.

 

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 Post subject: Re: base idle
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:58 pm 
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spvd02 wrote:
How do you adjust the base idle on an EF?


The {2222549} is for EA- ED.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:43 pm 
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ure on to a good point here slick but i would imagine that that ea-ed cam would run alright in an ef. but yeah y would u buy an ea-ed cam for an ef???
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:05 pm 
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i have the crow stage 3 and double springs in my EA. still yet to find out how she idles and runs due to ignition problems. will keep you guys posted
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:09 am 
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It sounds like the valves are not closing to me.If it is a regrind..your mechanic should have shimmed it better.If it is new then make sure you have installed new springs.That cam has some big lift.

 

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