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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:35 pm 
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3x 14.8's 2x 14.7's and a 14.67, all on a very cool night.
i wouldnt mind throwing a decent cam and some headwork into the mix, could get it into the low 14's!

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:05 pm 
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i ran a 14.67 in an un-cammed ef gli manual with extractors/exhaust and cold air and also have 3.45:1 ratio lsd.


yeah but yours doesnt count lol

thats a freak time with whats basically a stock EF


it does count, thats just a perfect example of a good condition e-series with smart modifications AND a good driver behind it.
thats all you really need to break into the 14's

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:19 pm 
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6k on parts and labor done by your self, slap on a turbo and 200rwkw is easy, even with a unopened motor with a i6.... lets see a e-series v8 punch out 400rwkw, with two extra cylinders you think it should be hard (cough s**t)
when your talking about value for your money performance i6 wins time after time


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If anyone disagrees, they are a f**k idiot that doesn't know s**t, and your opinion is null and void anyway.
If you still think you are right, even after I tell you you are wrong, go to www.turbomustangs.com, see the multiple 1500+hp Windsor based motors, and then show me the 4L straight sixes, let alone the 4L straight sixes with only one cam in the head, that make this power

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:21 pm 
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ms paint for the win LOL!
i agree 100% mate.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:25 pm 
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fordfairmont.. so you think maybe he had a really strong tail wind? :-)


blown :lol:

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:24 pm 
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wtf??? start of with a elxr6 manual. with 2k youl eaisly drop into the 14's. there have been several people drop into the 13's. for a na "6" you cant go wrong.
and in terms mods. you spend the same amount on a e-series 6 and 8. im sure the 6 will ALWAYS come out ahead


A ef/el at the drags last night needed 180 rwkw and a shot of nitrous to get in the 13's...

Was an awesome sight to say the least, but the coin used in that car was phenomenal too, It is like flogging a dead horse to an extent, unless you have a huffer on the side.

Still A big carb and cam Xflow will get close...
im close to a 134 with 174rwkw NA! no nitrous... or boost..

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:29 pm 
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This is what a standard six puts out. They're really s**t.
haha... although your 8 seems a bit dow n on power and a lil slow down the quater.. :lol:

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:10 pm 
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i love all those dyno sheets so im gunna add 1 aswell

 

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:51 pm 
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This is what a standard six puts out. They're really s**t.
haha... although your 8 seems a bit dow n on power and a lil slow down the quater.. :lol:


Just out of interest, what did your six do down the 1/4 with a standard head & cam, + automatic? :P

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:28 am 
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i love all those dyno sheets so im gunna add 1 aswell

is that with a exhaust/extractors and cold air or just a catback?

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:11 pm 
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smoke_ wrote:
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i love all those dyno sheets so im gunna add 1 aswell

is that with a exhaust/extractors and cold air or just a catback?


yea big exhaust system a fully sick pod filter and neons :D

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:12 pm 
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smoke_ wrote:
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i love all those dyno sheets so im gunna add 1 aswell

is that with a exhaust/extractors and cold air or just a catback?

Looks like shielded pod filter to me, you can tell by the way power just keeps climbing to the limiter.

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:29 am 
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i love all those dyno sheets so im gunna add 1 aswell

is that with a exhaust/extractors and cold air or just a catback?

Looks like shielded pod filter to me, you can tell by the way power just keeps climbing to the limiter.
:D :lol:
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:40 pm 
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OK ...Carl's (eed-250) drag record so far:

14.8 in his mildly worked ED GLi 6 when it was N/A,
14.5 in his other half's STOCK ED XR8 (hence his spiel on 6's vs 8's)
13.2 last week in his now-Turboed ED GLi (running approx 8 psi without intercooler)

This guy CAN drive, and he DOES know what he's talking about.

An N/A I6 can have a great combination of mods ...BUT from my experience, pulling a 14.5 quarter mile is ONLY possible if OTHER things are right on the night.

N/A cars are more susceptible to things like track conditions and driver technique.

A higher track / air temp, and the slightest driver f**k-up (bad launch = s**t 60 ft times) can play havoc with 1/4 mile ET's on an N/A car ...boosted cars have the extra power / torque reserves to not be as affected by these conditions / f**k-ups.

As a rough guide, a well modded manual N/A I6 Falc with 140-170 rwkw CAN run a mid-14 or below ...but only on a cold night, with a driver who knows how to launch well enough to achieve a 60 ft time as close to 2 secs as possible, without faltering for the rest of the run.

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:52 pm 
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coolies... so the stock GLI ED was .3 slower than a XR8?

That compares a standard 6, to a factory worked 8.. not a fair comparison is it?

I've decided my quest for 14.5 would benefit from a low km EL motor.. so I've just picked one up.

I've also lined up the driveline from an ED XR6. (5 spd manual and 3.45diff with 2piece driveshaft)

Put a cam in the EL BBM motor.. and all my existing mods.. should get me close..
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