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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:35 pm 
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Hi i am looking at getting an ef-el around christmas time so im just looking around atm i was just wondering is there a difference in motors between the xr6 and the fairmont as i would much rather the fairmont and lower it etc and the fairmont seems to be ralativly cheaper. if there is a difference wut can i do to get the power back apart from exaust.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:50 pm 
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Same motor most of the way through however the Fairmont is a little bit heavier. I'd go the Fairmont for sure and do a few little performance mods.

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:04 pm 
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better yet get a fairmont ghia and get the xr6 motor and driveline anyway :)

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:09 pm 
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get an EL fairmont ghia.... everything in one package.

They also dont have a troublesome coil pack setup if you get an EF get a series 2 Fairmont ghia. they also have the XR setup.

If you like manual convert it to manual if you like auto change the diff gearing and it will hammer.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:23 pm 
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so the ghia has it all? i dont know if theres much difference in price wuts the big diff tho, i dont care about the weight i like the luxery side, i'd keep auto as i get sick of changing gears thru town in busy hours just change diff but i dont want it reving to much at a 100, wut year is the ef2?
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:47 pm 
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troublesome coil pack setup ? opposed to dizzy module and dead coils?
you hear more about ea-ed's and el's than ef!

also EL ghia's got 3.45:1 lsd's!

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:11 pm 
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To tell a Tickford Ghia is by the 4.0 sticker on the bumper side strip, its gold instead of silver. They have the whole Tickford package, engine, ECU, suspension, and the diff, LSD.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:45 am 
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Im not sure if i could afford a ghia i think they are around the same much is an XR6 if not more. so if i was just to get a fairmont wut would i need to do to get up to ghia's standard i could save for s**t like that, are pistons the same etc
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:42 am 
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Krytox wrote:
troublesome coil pack setup ? opposed to dizzy module and dead coils?
you hear more about ea-ed's and el's than ef!



I second that. People go on about failing coil packs, but all you see is countless threads on spark issues with dizzy and modules like you said...
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:23 pm 
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get EL not EF!!

knowing ppl who own many Taxi's EL's are more reliable!!
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:05 pm 
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go ghia by the time you upgrade all the bits from ghia to standard it will cost ya more

main extras a ghia has is leather interior, chrome interior door handlse, xr6 runnin gear, none of this goodies in a standard mont, premo sound

i can tell ya all this cause i got a standard and built it into a ghia very expensive

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:40 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
Krytox wrote:
troublesome coil pack setup ? opposed to dizzy module and dead coils?
you hear more about ea-ed's and el's than ef!



I second that. People go on about failing coil packs, but all you see is countless threads on spark issues with dizzy and modules like you said...



i'll third that. the amount of dead coils you see on dizzy cars is huge, all it take is a little splash of water and it's game over. can't say i ever had a coil problem with my EF

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:48 pm 
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cjh wrote:
To tell a Tickford Ghia is by the 4.0 sticker on the bumper side strip, its gold instead of silver. They have the whole Tickford package, engine, ECU, suspension, and the diff, LSD.



It's called a golden ghia, but few people know it by that name. Its basically an xr, except its gota 2kw deficency which aint much at all. Word is tho that they shift harder than a xr. But they do cost more than your standard ghia. And make sure you don't get a copy/mock up

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:17 am 
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its up to you, weighed on cost v quality basis

gli $3500
fairmont $4000
ghia $5000 (tickford)
XR6 $6500

these are for cars in excellent condition...

id go the ghia but the xr6 is way cooler

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:12 pm 
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gogetta,

Good valuation on the vehicles... perfect actually!

Troy, don't pay anything more than this!!! & that's for cars in good condition!

 

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