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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:56 am 
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Nah sorry no dyno runs before modifications. i never got around to it, i should of, but to find the extra money after spending $5000 to get my car on the road was harder than i though.

butwill post both runs of the dyno on te computer asap.

stage 3 cam is soon to come as well.


seee the rwkw incrase then.

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 Post subject: power loss
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:02 pm 
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Is there any way of minimising the loss of power through the drive train, or is it just one of those things that are just to be. What would be some aftermarket perfomance parts that would strengthen the drive train as well as make it perform better.
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 Post subject: power loss
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:02 pm 
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Is there any way of minimising the loss of power through the drive train, or is it just one of those things that are just to be. What would be some aftermarket perfomance parts that would strengthen the drive train as well as make it perform better.
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 Post subject: Re: power loss
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:25 pm 
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irwin2257 wrote:
Is there any way of minimising the loss of power through the drive train, or is it just one of those things that are just to be. What would be some aftermarket perfomance parts that would strengthen the drive train as well as make it perform better.
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a lighten & balanced flywheel & drive shaft. 3.7:1 diff ratio. have every single part shot peen. $$$$

 

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 Post subject: shot peen
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:49 pm 
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i dont want to sound stupid but what is 'shot peen'. Cheers for that info, much appreciated.

 

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 Post subject: Re: shot peen
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:00 pm 
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irwin2257 wrote:
i dont want to sound stupid but what is 'shot peen'. Cheers for that info, much appreciated.

heres some info for you, I've cut & paste from the net.

WHAT IS PEENING?
Peening or shot peening, as it is commonly referred to in the
metal working industry, is a cold-working process performed
under highly controlled conditions in which the part to be
treated is bombarded by a stream of rounded media or shot.

WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF SHOT PEENING?
Usually metal fatigue failures begin as small cracks at the .
surface of the part and travel toward the core under cyclic
loading, resulting in final failure . For a crack to be
initiated , the surface must be under tensile stress which
can be caused by either the applied operational load of the
equipment or from a surfaced efec t .
Shot peening prevents these failures by creating a surface
which is in high compressive stress; therefore , an even
higher tensile stress will be required in order to initiate
afatigue crack which could result in failure .
Shot peening can also be used to form or change the shape of
some parts and also to eliminateporosity .
WHAT ARE SOm OF THE COMMON APPLICATIONS?
Coil and leafsprings are peened to improve
their fatigue characteristics . In most cases
spring life can be increased a minimum of 30
percent and has often been increased as much
a s ten times by shot peening.
Torsion bars are peened in areas of highest
stress.
Shafts and axles are peened to improve fatigue
strength .
Gears should be peened a t the root of the
fillets which is an area of high stress .
Aluminum die - castings such as transmission
housings are peened i n order t o reduce porosity
and therefore , eliminate leakage of lubricant
through the walls ,
High strength steel parts should be peened
after grinding, since grinding will induce
residual tensile stress.
Steel parts being used under dynamic loads
should be peencd priortopidting . In thrs
case, peening will act to prevent any cracks
or imperfections in the chrome or nickel
plating spreading in to the parent part .
WHAT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT ARE USED FOR PEENING?

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:00 am 
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i see this thread has come to a holt so i have started another thread in which i dont mean to hijack this one


hi

ok guys since dyno's is a very heated and arguementive topic lets see what happens here

We have a test vehicle donated by a Fordmods forum member name will be withheld to protect him from outside sources :wink:

We have a new BA XR6 straight of the production line( less than 3 weeks old ) just run by Fords procedures a virgin dyno car with less than 5000km's

I put forward a simple question

this vehicle is a factory standard BA XR6 with no mods what so ever YET

this car will be run between monday and friday this coming week at night after work which will suit both of us and i will post the results and graphs .

i will not be running the dyno in shootout mode but i will do a ramp up and ramp down graphing style so we will get the initia of this vehicle

Q1. what would u expect to see the rear wheel kwatt of a factory standard BA XR6 on a dyno dynamics chassis dyno ????

Q2 . what are the factory power figures from Ford ???


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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:03 am 
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hi

OK guys , heres a example of a vehicle a factory standard BA XR6 run on a dyno do the mathamtics and see what sort of losses we can base this car on.

we know factory kwatts at the engine , we know chassis dyno kwatts at the rear wheels make a calculation of the drivetran losses from the engine to the back wheels ???

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http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:44 am 
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F**k.. is this thread still going...

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:55 am 
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Would adding a transmission cooler ad rear kw to a auto??

less loss??

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:31 pm 
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HOLY s**t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This would HAVE to be not only the oldest, but the most s**t thread I've ever seen.

I have wasted 15 minutes of precious work time reading this dribble!!! :lol:

Poor old FPV-GTp. The poor bastard offers a simple calculation to try and help people calculate their fly wheel power and everyone shoots him down in flames and offers THEIR version...

Who cares about Fly power? Everyone is well aware that there are ten million trillion kabillion variances that can alter RWK and make it hard to determine FW/KW.

I'm all for having your car dynoed before and after mods on the same dyno to see what sort of gain you get and use that figure as an indicator, but let's not try and work out how much FW/KW we have. It don't matter!

I'm partially with STEADY_ED when he talks about him doing quarters and others doing dyno's.

The only REAL way to see how fast your car is and how fast YOU are is to put your car down the quarter and be done with it!

f**k FW/KW!!! It's s**t!!!

My 2 cents, rant over :wink:
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:04 pm 
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LOL F**k this debate is still running from alot of sexpirts who know alot of nothing


PMSFL i know who my father is

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. " - Albert Einstein




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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:12 pm 
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ROFL to FPV_GTp knowing who is father is! :lol:

 

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