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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:44 pm 
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Just bought my new car and was flicking thru the reciepts and they previous owner has forked out $2k for a 3.9 long motor ,,, whats the diff between long and short???

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:46 pm 
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long motor is block and head, short motor is block only

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:51 pm 
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so a long motor bare

would be a motor minus intake manifold and exhaust manifold..... plus alternator, p/s, a/c, alternator???

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:52 pm 
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bare long motor wouldnt have manifolds or any accessories

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:57 pm 
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Is there neway u can find out whether its a HMGEM or not? like do they stamp them. my mate thinks it is ,i reckon hes full of sh*t

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:59 pm 
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Gem often put a little badge on the back of the head (they use a glue that melts if you cook the engine so they know not to replace it under warranty.

Also if it blows up within 100,000k's it was probably one of theirs as well.

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:06 am 
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Dude i really wish u wouldnt say stuff like that, i have plans for that lump

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:19 am 
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Yeah i know. When I got my car it had a gem engine with about 50,000 k's on it. The head gasket went at 60,000k's and when I stripped it down found plenty of dodgy stuff inside.

I kept the crank, block and head castings and replaced EVERYTHING else.

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:49 am 
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so if i purchased a BA 4l dohc long motor bare.
i could purchase a megasquirt 2 ecu to run the engine, and use the current ecu to run the transmission.

then i would have to get an exhaust manifold, come up with an intake manifold, injectors, distro, water pump.

what stuff could i use from my ef motor???

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:52 am 
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Is there neway u can find out whether its a HMGEM or not? like do they stamp them. my mate thinks it is ,i reckon hes full of sh*t

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:33 am 
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Saiken wrote:
so if i purchased a BA 4l dohc long motor bare.
i could purchase a megasquirt 2 ecu to run the engine, and use the current ecu to run the transmission.

then i would have to get an exhaust manifold, come up with an intake manifold, injectors, distro, water pump.

what stuff could i use from my ef motor???


it still wont fit in the engine bay of ure ef
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:46 am 
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you can mod the bay to fit it, and get a ba boss bulge grafted into the bonnet, and the underside cut out to make it all fit, its been done before **without the ba bulge bit done, but a cut in the bonnet**

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:47 am 
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but doesnt matter, been speaking to various people and no longer going down this track. the SOHC engine can produce enough power for a track car with the correct setup

 

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