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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:33 pm 
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is there much diff in au and ef blocks, might just get au block

The EF timing cover and sump will fit the AU block for a straight fit.
Or mod the front of the AU sump to clear the k frame.


EF/EL Sump 'WILL NOT FIT AU ENGINE'. Why do you think people pay $120 plus to have a sump modified of modify their K Fame to fit an AU Engine to their EF/EL's if an EF/EL sump would fit. AU sump won't fit and that means that the Timing Case won't fit either.

I have seen it done. You have to change the timing cover to make it fit.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:47 pm 
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@ mad matt, so i can get an au block, ef sump , and which timing cover to make it all fitt, Do you have photoes

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:52 pm 
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I dont know if he has pics but I will try to get more details for you.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:00 pm 
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:43 pm 
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MadMatt wrote:
SWC wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
Shifteh wrote:
is there much diff in au and ef blocks, might just get au block

The EF timing cover and sump will fit the AU block for a straight fit.
Or mod the front of the AU sump to clear the k frame.


EF/EL Sump 'WILL NOT FIT AU ENGINE'. Why do you think people pay $120 plus to have a sump modified of modify their K Fame to fit an AU Engine to their EF/EL's if an EF/EL sump would fit. AU sump won't fit and that means that the Timing Case won't fit either.

I have seen it done. You have to change the timing cover to make it fit.


and i beleave you also need to change the rear main cap to get clearence for the sump..
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:18 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
SWC wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
Shifteh wrote:
is there much diff in au and ef blocks, might just get au block

The EF timing cover and sump will fit the AU block for a straight fit.
Or mod the front of the AU sump to clear the k frame.


EF/EL Sump 'WILL NOT FIT AU ENGINE'. Why do you think people pay $120 plus to have a sump modified of modify their K Fame to fit an AU Engine to their EF/EL's if an EF/EL sump would fit. AU sump won't fit and that means that the Timing Case won't fit either.

I have seen it done. You have to change the timing cover to make it fit.


and i beleave you also need to change the rear main cap to get clearence for the sump..



Changing a main cap would mean line honing the main tunnel. change the bolts and massage the sump with a hammer

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:24 pm 
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i might have an ef block on way , just swap the pistons and crack over , new rings , bearings and julies your brother

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:27 pm 
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i might have an ef block on way , just swap the pistons and crack over , new rings , bearings and julies your brother

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:32 pm 
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i might have an ef block on way , just swap the pistons and crack over , new rings , bearings and julies your brother

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:39 pm 
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i might have an ef block on way , just swap the pistons and crack over , new rings , bearings and julies your brother

depends on bore size-to piston fit,rebore the block to fit pistons,or buy new pistons to fit bore,or if lucky just new rings,check the au shaft hole first :?: :?:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:41 pm 
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i mean ef-ef i cant really sbe stuffed with an au block atm , but as soon as the ef block comes ill chuck it all in the ef, then i may get an ba engine and put that in :D

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:39 pm 
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just buy a complete engine.

buying a block and changing over your internals is guaranteed to end in heart ache.

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:59 pm 
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Shifteh wrote:
i took the timing chain and gear off today to clean it upo and i noticed theres some slack in the timing chain idler gear, it moves say 2-3mm from side to side but does not have any slack up and down,,, im pretty sure this connects to the dizzy and oil pump

Should i be worried, or do a shell be right


Sounds like its had a head gasket job once, and the cam chain tensioner wasn't reset.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Major problem , I need your help guys, AUX SHAFT PLAY
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:16 am 
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well funney you say that, when i was taking harmonic balancer bolt off it was ,,,, say surprisingley loose i mean i undid it with an X type tyre iron thingy,,,, and the return for the turbo's oil is like a hose with a fitting gasket gooed into sump so i guess someone did a dodge job,,

anyone needing a large useless peice of cast iron????? actually i might make a table or something

 

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