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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:19 pm 
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ok guys i am making my own watrer injection kit for summer

only want it to operate above 3-4rpm
what i am looking for is a rpm activated swicth of some sort or a vacum operated switch ie high vaccum open circut
low vaccum to zero vaccum closed circut

this is to operate the water pump.

also need a bleed back device or somethign to stop water flow when the pump is off as i do not want water to be "sucked" into the engine under the above load points.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:41 pm 
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Use two jaycar frequency switches in series. One hooked up to RPM signal and the other to the map sensor signal.

Try sealing the water tank so that it always sees the same pressure as the manifold. ie. when there is high vaccum the tank is at high vaccum.

Have a look at intercooler "mist" type watersprays.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:55 pm 
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Disco Frank wrote:
ok guys i am making my own watrer injection kit for summer

only want it to operate above 3-4rpm
what i am looking for is a rpm activated swicth of some sort or a vacum operated switch ie high vaccum open circut
low vaccum to zero vaccum closed circut

this is to operate the water pump..
do you mean 3000-4000rpm?
get a "digital pulse adjuster" for $79.95 Cat No:KC-5385 & hand controller $59.95 Cat No:KC-5386 at jaycar. or cheaper, a micro switch.


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also need a bleed back device or somethign to stop water flow when the pump is off as i do not want water to be "sucked" into the engine under the above load points.
water/Alcohol Solenoid or high quality brass checkvalve

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:36 pm 
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mm cheers guys... :)

yer 3000rpm and above.. i was thinkign about the micro switch after i posted this.. place it on the throttle body some how...

have some parts just need a higher pressure pump( damn windscreen washer bottle pump is too week in testing :(:(


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Use two jaycar frequency switches in series. One hooked up to RPM signal and the other to the map sensor signal.

Try sealing the water tank so that it always sees the same pressure as the manifold. ie. when there is high vaccum the tank is at high vaccum.


mm tank in boot!!
and the jaycar swicthes i have no idea car to explain more for me?

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:44 pm 
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Disco Frank wrote:
mm cheers guys... :)

yer 3000rpm and above.. i was thinkign about the micro switch after i posted this.. place it on the throttle body some how...

have some parts just need a higher pressure pump( damn windscreen washer bottle pump is too week in testing :(:(


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Use two jaycar frequency switches in series. One hooked up to RPM signal and the other to the map sensor signal.

Try sealing the water tank so that it always sees the same pressure as the manifold. ie. when there is high vaccum the tank is at high vaccum.

mm tank in boot!!
and the jaycar swicthes i have no idea car to explain more for me?
heres a direct link to jaycar KC-5384 http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.as ... &SUBCATID=

A VP commy came with 45psi windscreen washer unit. you'll find them at the wreakers. :wink:

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:10 pm 
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capa do kits now as well was lookin at their site the other day
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:14 pm 
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Naa that's not it. Those only adjust pulses that the car is already recieving. Although you could hook it up to the fuel injectors and tune the water injector as a function of injector duty cycle but then you have to have a PWM solenoid.

I think you just want to switch it on or off.
In that case look for a frequency switch. All it does is monitor a frequency input (like RPM signals or our frequency based MAP sensors) And switch someting on or off when the frequency passes a certain threshold (set with a screwdriver = easy). They are commonly used for shift lights etc.
If you put two in series then both have to be triggered on before the water injection pump will start. = Done! Check your gregories manual it has the frequency ranges for the MAP sensor.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:20 pm 
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ermmmmmmmmm why???

n/a 6cyl right? Why do you want water injection.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:29 pm 
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what does it mater if it's N/A??

water injection helps to stop detonation. i know of a lot of N/A cars that suffer from it on hot days.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:32 pm 
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ermmmmmmmmm why???

n/a 6cyl right? Why do you want water injection.


yup more for the hot summer days :)
and a fun project not for anything serious at all


so FREQUENCYSWITCH
so why do i need 2?
1 off and 1 on?

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:14 am 
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Dunno if I'm looking at this too simply.
How about for your RPM interlock to use the ECU output to the VSV that controls the Broadband manifold. In EF/EL's it's pin 15, <3800RPM 0V, >3800RPM 12V. Splice into the equivalent AU wire for relay coil power. Then for further interlocks, as per what's already suggested.
This might save 1 RPM switch at least.

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:32 am 
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Disco Frank wrote:
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ermmmmmmmmm why???

n/a 6cyl right? Why do you want water injection.


yup more for the hot summer days :)
and a fun project not for anything serious at all


so FREQUENCYSWITCH
so why do i need 2?
1 off and 1 on?

that'll work too but you'll only need one.

this is what water injection can also do for your engine.

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:18 pm 
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Just incase your interested in having a look:
http://capa.com.au/capa_performance_water.htm
http://capa.com.au/prices_capa_performa ... capa_water
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/100-psi-Methanol ... dZViewItem

 

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:21 pm 
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cheers seen all those.. so far parts haev cost me under $40
hoping to do this for less than $200

 

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