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 Post subject: minor service
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:07 pm 
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hi guys.
i will be doing a minor service on my car this weekend, just the routine oil and filter change( have been told and read that motorocraft filters are the ones to get..can i get these from bursons or autobarn?)
my old man has been putting penrite...hpr15? i believe it to be in my car and from the things ive seen on here people dont seem to like it!
my car has ~271,XXXkms has been regularly serviced etc runs quite well apart from minor hiccups with the transmission! i get noise from the hla's on start-up and sometimes i can hear them after driving it. my oil pressure gauge seems to usually read 3/4 or FULL (which cant be good, maybe somethings not working right) but i have seen it be around 1/2 way mark aswell!

i would just like to know what oil people would recommend for my car that works well in their experience..also as to some other things i should check/replace when servicing my car...such as fuel filter (ive been told this can fix my cars hunting idle?)

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:07 pm 
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penrite sin50, arguably best oil for our 6's
most oil filter would be just fine if you stick to service intervals, they should be changed every 30000km but i do m ine every 15k,
make sure you put some injector cleaner fluid in there to

 

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:35 pm 
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soo you recommend penrite then..hmm haha

oh injector cleaner..that makes me think of another thing!
sometimes when i start my car..after its been running it will rev upto 1500-2000rpm and stay there for a few seconds but then drop..is this injectors getting stuck open or somethign?

 

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:05 pm 
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change your spark plugs, Oil Filter, Oil Change, Air Filter and that would do for a minor service.

Ummm the last time i used Penrite i thought it was s**t?
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:37 am 
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4dlvr wrote:
penrite sin50, arguably best oil for our 6's
most oil filter would be just fine if you stick to service intervals, they should be changed every 30000km but i do m ine every 15k,
make sure you put some injector cleaner fluid in there to


I wouldnt ever recommend changing oil filters every 30,000. Should be done every oil change at no more than 15,000, better at 10,000.
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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:27 pm 
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Your ISC might be hanging open, give it a clean sith some throttle body cleaner, do the throttle body while you are there. HPR15 is fine for our taxis. My oil pressure usually site about 4psi, about ½ way up the guage. drops slightly at idle as expected. where your oil pressure sits is fine, if its going off either end or hanging in the orange it not good.

I usually use Ryco or Motorcraft filters, avoid Coopers, I've used 3, of theose 3 2 have leaked.
Change your fuel filter while your there, only $15 for a new one.

 

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:50 pm 
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Everybody has a different opinion on oil. Mine is that there is f**k all difference between them, so long as you are using the right viscosity and a brand name oil.

As said, Ryco or Motorcraft Filters are the way to go.

If you can hear the HLA's, they are slowly on their way out. Happens to every falcon. Cheap and easy to change.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:52 pm 
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TIAMO wrote:
4dlvr wrote:
penrite sin50, arguably best oil for our 6's
most oil filter would be just fine if you stick to service intervals, they should be changed every 30000km but i do m ine every 15k,
make sure you put some injector cleaner fluid in there to


I wouldnt ever recommend changing oil filters every 30,000. Should be done every oil change at no more than 15,000, better at 10,000.



so you no these cars better than the very company that makes them???
open your service book and check how often they need to be replaced
have you ever opened up an oil filter after 10,000km?
technically speaking, the more often you change your oil, the less often you need to change your oil filter.
as a quick and easy rule, change your oil filter every second time you change your oil except if you are changing the grade or brand of your oil, if so change it again.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:59 pm 
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don't be a tight a**. a Motorcraft filter is $10 from your local Ford dealer. so may as well change it. good piece of mind thing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:14 pm 
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4dlvr wrote:
TIAMO wrote:
4dlvr wrote:
penrite sin50, arguably best oil for our 6's
most oil filter would be just fine if you stick to service intervals, they should be changed every 30000km but i do m ine every 15k,
make sure you put some injector cleaner fluid in there to


I wouldnt ever recommend changing oil filters every 30,000. Should be done every oil change at no more than 15,000, better at 10,000.



so you no these cars better than the very company that makes them???
open your service book and check how often they need to be replaced
have you ever opened up an oil filter after 10,000km?
technically speaking, the more often you change your oil, the less often you need to change your oil filter.
as a quick and easy rule, change your oil filter every second time you change your oil except if you are changing the grade or brand of your oil, if so change it again.


Come back when you have an Idea on what your talking about.... Oil filters should be changed every time the oil is. Better safe than sorry. I do Oil AND filter every 5000k's.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:32 pm 
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4dlvr wrote:
TIAMO wrote:
4dlvr wrote:
penrite sin50, arguably best oil for our 6's
most oil filter would be just fine if you stick to service intervals, they should be changed every 30000km but i do m ine every 15k,
make sure you put some injector cleaner fluid in there to


I wouldnt ever recommend changing oil filters every 30,000. Should be done every oil change at no more than 15,000, better at 10,000.



so you no these cars better than the very company that makes them???
open your service book and check how often they need to be replaced
have you ever opened up an oil filter after 10,000km?
technically speaking, the more often you change your oil, the less often you need to change your oil filter.
as a quick and easy rule, change your oil filter every second time you change your oil except if you are changing the grade or brand of your oil, if so change it again.


I have done my mechanics trade, owned over 10 different Falcons, raced them through club events, and i quote directly from 'my' service manual - "oil filter replacement is recommended each time the engine oil is replaced'', the service intervals state "recommended" service intervals, not enforced, under heavy conditions it is recommended to service more often. Perhaps think before posting stupid comments again. I also change mine every 5k as i care for my cars, and "im" not a tightass when it comes to their needs. Putting clean oil with a dirty filter = stupidity
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:42 pm 
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Come back when you have an Idea on what your talking about.... Oil filters should be changed every time the oil is. Better safe than sorry. I do Oil AND filter every 5000k's.



each to their own mate,
as i stated before, the manufactures that design, engineer and build these cars recommend that they are changed every second service. i have had a very long convo about this with a ford mechanic when i took a car in for a service and the oil filter hadn't been changed.
sure you may be a mechanic by trade you say this, my mechanic says otherwise.
on the ford service manual i have it says every b service, which comes every 30,000km

also as i stated before, have you ever opened up a filter at 10,000kms compared to 20000km to see the difference??? i have and it was s**t all.
surely there is no harm in changing it every service, i never said their was, but is it really necessary?? i think not

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:57 pm 
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4dlvr wrote:
67RCE wrote:
Come back when you have an Idea on what your talking about.... Oil filters should be changed every time the oil is. Better safe than sorry. I do Oil AND filter every 5000k's.



each to their own mate,
as i stated before, the manufactures that design, engineer and build these cars recommend that they are changed every second service. i have had a very long convo about this with a ford mechanic when i took a car in for a service and the oil filter hadn't been changed.
sure you may be a mechanic by trade you say this, my mechanic says otherwise.
on the ford service manual i have it says every b service, which comes every 30,000km

also as i stated before, have you ever opened up a filter at 10,000kms compared to 20000km to see the difference??? i have and it was s**t all.
surely there is no harm in changing it every service, i never said their was, but is it really necessary?? i think not


Given the amount of s**t floating around in the oil, you change them regularly. Ford, among other MAJOR manufacturers change filters at EVERY service. Only recently have service intervals been pushed past the 10000km mark. If you want to risk your motor, that is YOUR choice, don't inform others that it is not required to change filters every service, when it essintially, if extremely important that an oil filter is as fresh as possible. btw, it's only $7 for a filter, don't be such a tight a***.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:05 pm 
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Penrite in my experience was rubbish... had noisy(er) lifters with the correct weight, went to Nulon and they died down a fair bit.

lol's at 30,000km oil filter changes!

 

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 Post subject: Re: minor service
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:29 am 
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Your ISC might be hanging open, give it a clean sith some throttle body cleaner, do the throttle body while you are there. HPR15 is fine for our taxis. My oil pressure usually site about 4psi, about ½ way up the guage. drops slightly at idle as expected. where your oil pressure sits is fine, if its going off either end or hanging in the orange it not good.

I usually use Ryco or Motorcraft filters, avoid Coopers, I've used 3, of theose 3 2 have leaked.
Change your fuel filter while your there, only $15 for a new one.


can i get motorcraft ones from bursons? there is a ford dealer in sunbury..not sure if they have a parts department though!
umm as with my oil pressure, the gauge will generally read in the orange bit or off the top end, sometimes bit below the orange :S what should i be checking here?


anyone know what would be causing my car to rev upto 1500-2000rpm when i start it it sits there for a few secs?
so i should stick with penrite hpr15 or possibly try nulon?

as for spark plugs..i dont know much about these, can anyone direct me as to which ones i would get? how about spark plugs?

i had once tried cleaning my isc not long ago with some metho which came up pretty well, made a new gasket for it and it seemed ok but has gone back to hunting again. i heard having smaller holes in the gasket helps this?

 

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