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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:44 pm 
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cool so we are both wrong/right!!?? well i will take some photos and upload the progress.. cheers for all the information/arguments guys! we will be doing it to his car in the coming weeks!! will let you know how it goes! we will use everything off his ef and go to the wreckers and get a el computer!


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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:48 pm 
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I thought the looms for the ef engine bay wiring was different to the el, didnt ef have 2 plugs for the loom and el have 1 plug for the loom, isnt the ecu plug different as well

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:49 pm 
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ecu plug is different... hence why you have to run an EL computer (EL + ED are the same)... as for the other loom I have no idea???

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:54 pm 
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becuase ef runs coil packs and and el runs a dizzy, but also there is a tec doco some where you can use the ea to ed loom, just have to run a few extra wires and some plugs will have to be chopped etc

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:57 pm 
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oh yeah... easier to use the ED loom and extend the TPS and ISC wires and that...

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:04 pm 
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fordmods-technical-documents-diy-f38/fitting-a-ef-el-bbm-to-your-ea-ed-how-to-t95181.html

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:38 pm 
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im currently have a au engine put into my series one eb fairmont ghia and the mechanic is using the au bbm. duno if hes using the au computer or can he use the eb one?

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:45 pm 
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au bbm map sensor is below throttle body, e seiries is on the firewall

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:45 pm 
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The manifold itself is the same from EF to AU (donno about BA) but he'll probably use a EL computer. Unless he dose the RPM switch trick.

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:50 pm 
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well how u gonna plug the hole under the throttle body left from the au map sensor unless u scrap the one on the fire wall and re wire it to the au one

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:09 pm 
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You answered your own question.

 

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NA Fairlane Build thread:
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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:15 pm 
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isnt the map sensors different between e series and au series,

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:25 pm 
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Yes, sorry your right there.
I think the part numbers are different, and the housing probably is too if one bolts to the throttle and the other to the firewall.
But what I don't know is wether they would both function the same electrically, or if the AU one has a different output or somthing.

I they are the same, (functionally) it would be as you say, just extend wiring and the plug.

 

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[color=#004080]Cheers, Jacob.

NA Fairlane Build thread:
the-garage-f53/my-fairlane-build-lowlane-t94891.html.
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AU LTD, DC LTD, and Lowlane.

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Ok, just looked up ACA catalogue...
EA-EL (88-98) are same part number.
But AU has 2 different one.
One from 98-00 (series I) and one from 00 on. (series II)

plugs look different (easy swap I guess) but the only issue would be of they have a different output to the computer, if so the EL computer wouldn't read it properly.

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:28 pm 
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so au computer would read it?

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