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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:35 pm 
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no dont think so, also depends what series the computer is, example, smart shield or smart lock series 1 or series 2 / 3, and if your eb fairmont ghia has smart lock,

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the au has a tmap which mounts in the manifold which reads map and manifold air temp.
and e series has a map sensor mounted to the firewall with a vacuum hose..


also au computer runs different ignition system to the eb, au runs coil pack, eb has a dizzy

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:38 pm 
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ahk well god knows wat he is gona do then. ill have to go round and giv it a sus coz yea duno how hes gona do this??

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:42 pm 
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find ya self a el bbm with the ecu and use your eb wiring, theres a tech doco on here which shows you and explains how to do it

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edit, check a few posts back i mdae and i made a link to the techo doc, cheers

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:49 pm 
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well hes doin it 2moro so ill pop round and ask him wats the go and ill suggest the el bbm and computer

cheers anthony
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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:51 pm 
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But yeh au computer wont run your eb

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:10 pm 
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effalcon94 wrote:
well hes doin it 2moro so ill pop round and ask him wats the go and ill suggest the el bbm and computer

cheers anthony


When you go there you should ask him generally as if you don't know the answer, and see if he gives you the right answer himself, he may tell you he's got a EL BBM and computer, or he may not even know about this and may get a suprise.(if that makes sense)
he may be using the AU computer though and doing a full AU fit. (loom parts etc)
Basically suss out if he knows what he's doing or not, cos if he dosnt you might wanna take the car back before he starts, realizes his error and stuffs it all up.

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:18 pm 
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lowlane7 he said hes done it before on his ea and he said hes got a wiring harness for it, he said it works and hes done it befoe so im a lil on iffy on what to do. hes already got the au engine in jst not the bbm yet...

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:20 pm 
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Lowlane7 wrote:
effalcon94 wrote:
well hes doin it 2moro so ill pop round and ask him wats the go and ill suggest the el bbm and computer

cheers anthony


When you go there you should ask him generally as if you don't know the answer, and see if he gives you the right answer himself, he may tell you he's got a EL BBM and computer, or he may not even know about this and may get a suprise.(if that makes sense)
he may be using the AU computer though and doing a full AU fit. (loom parts etc)
Basically suss out if he knows what he's doing or not, cos if he dosnt you might wanna take the car back before he starts, realizes his error and stuffs it all up.


Even though if he does the loom swap over etc, it still wont run the car, becuase it has a dizzy unless he decides to run it as a coil pack, alot of head ache

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:21 pm 
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well if he puts a dizzy on the au motor and no knock sensor and runs a el bbm and computer will that be it?
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:22 pm 
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effalcon94 wrote:
lowlane7 he said hes done it before on his ea and he said hes got a wiring harness for it, he said it works and hes done it befoe so im a lil on iffy on what to do. hes already got the au engine in jst not the bbm yet...

cheers anthony



Mate, the au computer wont run the engine, it has different ignition setup, it runn coil packs, also it could be smart shield or smart lock, the ecu plug is different between eb and au,

I think you should get it back off him, imo

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:24 pm 
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effalcon94 wrote:
well if he puts a dizzy on the au motor and no knock sensor and runs a el bbm and computer will that be it?


put the dizzy in the au motor, run the el bbm, but use ur eb wiring harness to chop and rewire plugs and extend

 

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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:25 pm 
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ok well now i know what he has to do lets see what he has to say then!

cheers anthony
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:27 pm 
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effalcon94 wrote:
ok well now i know what he has to do lets see what he has to say then!

cheers anthony


also forgot to add mate, use the el ecu not the eb one, also have to wire in a rmp switch,

also i think you have to change some hoses as well etc

 

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 Post subject: Re: my mate has a stock ed and reckons a ef bbm wont fitstait on
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:29 pm 
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Hmm, ok.
Maybe he's gonna fit the AU in completely. I think it's possible, but I'm not sure on how much wiring needs changing for the AU computer to function properly.
I think the EEC-IV (EA-ED) and EEC-V (EF/EL) are essentially the same but with the knok sensor, coil pack, thermo fan extras. No idea about AU tho.
The way in the tech doco here is to do it the easiest way possible to make it a backyard job.
Bein a mechanic and having done it before he may have it sorted.
If you trust him then let it ride and it should work out.

If you don't mind me asking how much was the quote for the whole job?

My engine plan is similar to what you are getting done, AU block and head, EF/EL BBM with EL computer (smartlock tricked) with serpentine belt setup.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:30 pm 
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1 BBM solenoid which is located behind washer bottle at passenger rear section of engine bay
2 Throttle pedal, cable and all associated bits and pieces.
3 EL Automatic or Manual ECU depending on which trans your car uses.
4 EF – EL Rocker cover and gasket to mount throttle pedal and Cruise control (if fitted) (cruise control is covered in another section of tech documents. I will endeavour to produce a step by step guide to convert EB-ED cruise to suit EF-EL manifold at a later date).
5 Remove fuel hoses at bottom end of hose down low on firewall on passenger side.
6 Vacuum tree from EL and all pipes.
7 EL engine wiring loom.


List of things that needs to be changed,

 

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