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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:37 pm 
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is that Jim Mock's dyno?

 

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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:40 pm 
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I don't think so as that car is from QLD I'm pretty sure he just got the engine built from Jim.
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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:43 pm 
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sweet power but if that's going by Jim Mock's dyno, it doesn't have that much power

 

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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:11 pm 
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charlie4401 wrote:
All just so ever one can see that the motor can get thaws kind of numbers with the stock plenum. NOw I know that with that car it has to have the stock T/B and plenum aswell as it has to have the same stroke and can not be dry sumped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowKuwbv ... ata_player


He quotes 240RwKw @ 7400rpm. which is 320 RwHp. No where in that clip does it show the Dyno readout. 240RwKw is a long way short of 295RwKw (394 hp).

The clip has been posted by Jim Mock so I would say that it is on his Dyno :roll: .

If you claim 394 RwHp then post you dyno sheet from a reputable tuner.
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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:23 pm 
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charlie4401 wrote:
yeah but i think you can do it for a lot less i have been playing around with a few engines now and just testing them on the dyno so far i have gotten 394hp and thats still with the stock plenum and T/B so there is alot more to be made.. when i get the motor in the car and change a few things i will let you guys know



I want to see these results that YOU have been playing around with on the dyno as YOU say......
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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:12 pm 
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I love how every one is the first to jump up and say its bull s**t and at the end of the day I have said and will say again I will not post any dyno sheets up after I make sure the motor will last and find it braking point.. and yes that is rear wheel horse power... I will post the sheets and like it said I want to sell these motors so i'm not going to post a dyno sheet if the motor wont last..
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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:34 am 
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charlie4401 wrote:
I love how every one is the first to jump up and say its bull s**t and at the end of the day I have said and will say again I will not post any dyno sheets up after I make sure the motor will last and find it braking point.. and yes that is rear wheel horse power... I will post the sheets and like it said I want to sell these motors so i'm not going to post a dyno sheet if the motor wont last..

Firstly- this does not make sense.-
"I have said and will say again I will not post any dyno sheets up after I make sure the motor will last and find it braking point.."

Secondly, without supporting documentation what do you expect?.Why dont you post some proof. This way you can shut up all the critics (like me), and give yourself some credibility. After all, you do plan on selling these 400rwhp engines. If you are for real, why not use this thread (and forum) to develop your ideas. This way any short falls or wins you have while attempting to acheive these numbers, are already documented. Just a suggestion.
(I can then steal your ideas, and have 400rwhp at the treads of my BF) :lol:
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:31 am 
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Feel free to post up a dyno sheet, and don't f**k with the figures etc (we all know dyno's can be fixed to show a massive increase)

 

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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:42 am 
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What I'm saying is I have gotten pretty much 400rwhp but there is no point put up papers to show if the motor won't last and it can only make 350rwhp all day every day. At the end of the day I have built some big hp motors eg 780rwhp RB25 and a 550rwhp 351C so just wait for a month or so and then the proof will be up.
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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:34 am 
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next youl be telling us there will be no carbon tax.

mate just put up some some pics, thats all you have to do.

why gloat that you have something and then you cant back it up. showing pics of the motor wont give away all the secrets, its whats inside a motor that counts.

PICS or BAN !!!!

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:42 am 
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So u want a pic of the motor. It looks stock apart from the extractors.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:45 am 
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charlie4401 wrote:
So u want a pic of the motor. It looks stock apart from the extractors.



well a pic of them will be a good start if you reckon it can make nearly 400rwhp then they must be a pretty impressive custom made set. put a pic up so we can all see.

 

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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:47 am 
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No one here cares if its not safe power and blows up. It would be awesome just to see if it has that power. I don't see the big deal in showing a dyno sheet. No one can copy your mods from a dyno graph.

 

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 Post subject: Re: NA BA power??
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:51 pm 
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thats right, just look at dyno comps the cars that are out there making huge figures couldnt do that all day every day, they just run them on the ragged edge on the dyno for the bragging rights.

so dont be scared post some pics

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:43 pm 
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charlie4401 wrote:
I love how every one is the first to jump up and say its bull s**t and at the end of the day I have said and will say again I will not post any dyno sheets up after I make sure the motor will last and find it braking point.. and yes that is rear wheel horse power... I will post the sheets and like it said I want to sell these motors so i'm not going to post a dyno sheet if the motor wont last..


You made the claim, so back it up. If I was to believe you without evidence of your claim then I can claim 250RwKw from my SOHC 4.0L with 370,000km. No proof needed, I say it is true therefore it is.

Very few of us said that it was s**t, we just want proof. But now you bring it up....

.......s**t......

At the end of the day......

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