Fordmods Logo

need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!! 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 9 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:19 pm 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 26

Posts: 67

Joined: 29th Jun 2008

Ride: EB Fairmont

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

hey guys i need some help with my EB, yesterday and today i was changing my cam and i used the cam gear and rockers from my ef xr6 on to my AU s3 engine, put everything back together and when i went to start it it just winds over and does nothing, i set the cam timing as per an EF/EL cam, should i have set the timing the same as the Au timing marks which are set at app 11 o'clock compared to the EL timing marks. Cheers rhys

 

_________________

Silver EB Fairmont- AU S3 engine, Tickford Head, EF handbrake, T5 manual, EF XR6 3.45 LSD, 2.5" Catback by Rapid Exhaust, EL BBM, EL XR6 ECU, EL Thermos, EB Ghia interior, Kingy Superlows, Monroe struts
Now with a Walbro 255lph fuel pump :grin:

soon to come a crankin sound system boo yeh!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:34 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 6432

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 6 images

Could the dizzy timing be 180° out?

 

_________________

5.6L of carbon footprint.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:18 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 30

Posts: 3737

Joined: 22nd May 2006

Ride: BF F6 Tornado - #0077

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

this has been covered but never fully documented.

the ratios and offsets of the rockers might be causing the issue. i think the au pedistal and e series rock arm are needed. sort of sounds like the valves are hanging.

but e series cam stuff in AUs is a dark art for the most part.

 

_________________

** For Sale ** http://www.fordmods.com/ford-parts-for-sale-f17/assorted-e-series-parts-t124697.html

F6 Tornado 2006 Build

Is it about sex? The engine in my car? Or a cure for cancer?
No?

Then f**k off

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:26 am 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 26

Posts: 67

Joined: 29th Jun 2008

Ride: EB Fairmont

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

i did a compression test on all the cylinders without the rockers on and there was no compression at all, found that all the exhaust are bent, i tried doing the EF cam before and the car started so maybe i bent the valves doing it then. luckily ive got a spare head to put on.

 

_________________

Silver EB Fairmont- AU S3 engine, Tickford Head, EF handbrake, T5 manual, EF XR6 3.45 LSD, 2.5" Catback by Rapid Exhaust, EL BBM, EL XR6 ECU, EL Thermos, EB Ghia interior, Kingy Superlows, Monroe struts
Now with a Walbro 255lph fuel pump :grin:

soon to come a crankin sound system boo yeh!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:43 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 2644

Joined: 6th Nov 2004

Gallery: 8 images

Ride: 2007

Location: Mount Annan
NSW, Australia

The marks on the AU cam gear are different from the EF, from memory there are two marks on the AU.

 

_________________

BF Fairmont Ghia Series II update.
GQ XR6T ghia patrol.

,======o00o
//__|__|_,\_____\,___
|_/--\'_|'__|_/--\_[]IIII[]
_( o ) )_____( o ) )=o=) )__

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:42 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 30

Posts: 3737

Joined: 22nd May 2006

Ride: BF F6 Tornado - #0077

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

just check the valve arnt hanging in to the cylinders and arnt closing. they may not nessisaraly be bent

 

_________________

** For Sale ** http://www.fordmods.com/ford-parts-for-sale-f17/assorted-e-series-parts-t124697.html

F6 Tornado 2006 Build

Is it about sex? The engine in my car? Or a cure for cancer?
No?

Then f**k off

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:38 pm 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 26

Posts: 67

Joined: 29th Jun 2008

Ride: EB Fairmont

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

i checked if they were hanging but they are definitely bent cause you can see the gouge marks where the valves have hit the pistons.

 

_________________

Silver EB Fairmont- AU S3 engine, Tickford Head, EF handbrake, T5 manual, EF XR6 3.45 LSD, 2.5" Catback by Rapid Exhaust, EL BBM, EL XR6 ECU, EL Thermos, EB Ghia interior, Kingy Superlows, Monroe struts
Now with a Walbro 255lph fuel pump :grin:

soon to come a crankin sound system boo yeh!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:22 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 30

Posts: 3737

Joined: 22nd May 2006

Ride: BF F6 Tornado - #0077

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

bugger. have been told that there is a way to put e series stuff on an AU, but obviously thats not it.

 

_________________

** For Sale ** http://www.fordmods.com/ford-parts-for-sale-f17/assorted-e-series-parts-t124697.html

F6 Tornado 2006 Build

Is it about sex? The engine in my car? Or a cure for cancer?
No?

Then f**k off

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: need help car cranks but wont fire!!!!!
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:17 pm 
Parts Gopher
Offline

Age: 26

Posts: 67

Joined: 29th Jun 2008

Ride: EB Fairmont

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

yea i found out the hard way :( but luckily ive got the EF XR6 to put on the motor, im gettin it serviced and pressure tested etc so hopefully will have the car running by next week.

 

_________________

Silver EB Fairmont- AU S3 engine, Tickford Head, EF handbrake, T5 manual, EF XR6 3.45 LSD, 2.5" Catback by Rapid Exhaust, EL BBM, EL XR6 ECU, EL Thermos, EB Ghia interior, Kingy Superlows, Monroe struts
Now with a Walbro 255lph fuel pump :grin:

soon to come a crankin sound system boo yeh!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 9 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 21 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:41 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names