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 Post subject: Re: new cam help?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:55 pm 
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also looked for an EA intake pipe, couldnt find one though. so went to mag n turbo out panmure. there doing me 3" pipe from throttle body to a pod filter with cold air box, they quoted bout $110.. not too bad?

 

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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:06 pm 
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also looked for an EA intake pipe, couldnt find one though. so went to mag n turbo out panmure. there doing me 3" pipe from throttle body to a pod filter with cold air box, they quoted bout $110.. not too bad?

Sounds pretty good but can't see it being much of a cold air box in with that? Pod will run you close to $100 alone without piping so that sounds pretty damn good.

 

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 Post subject: Re: new cam help?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:35 pm 
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yeah i thought it was cheap too with air box, maybe i got him wrong haha? but ohwell il go see him again during the week. is 3" a good size? heard from my mate that it might be too much air, didnt think that would be a bad thing though

 

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:57 pm 
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yeah i thought it was cheap too with air box, maybe i got him wrong haha? but ohwell il go see him again during the week. is 3" a good size? heard from my mate that it might be too much air, didnt think that would be a bad thing though

3" is perfect.

 

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:32 pm 
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sweeeeeeeeet hope it makes it sound mint :D

 

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:48 pm 
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how do you get to much air? thats a new one lol
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 Post subject: Re: new cam help?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:01 pm 
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haha im not sure, thats why i was confused, he reccons it will make it run rough, but obviously not

 

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 Post subject: Re: new cam help?
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:22 pm 
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could someone give me an equal to the 1673 wade cam to one of these franklin cams?

http://www.camshafts.co.nz/Ford.aspx

only know the basics about cams and not really too sure, cheers!
1673 Wade cam is 264/258 I/E duration seat to seat. 206/198 I/E durations at 0.050 lift. Cam Lobe Lift 0.256"/0.242" Valve lift 0.512"/0.484"

Franklin offer these two cams which are close-ish:
3 RH44B 260/254º 198/193º .265/.252” .503/.478”
4 P14 270/272º 212/212º .254/.254” .482/.482”

I guess make a choice between the two! But, note with 0.265" lift at the lobe, you may need different valve springs. Wade recommend for an AU (stock beehive springs) anyway that 0.512" valve lift is the most that can be achieved before coil bind. As you said you'd be going with new springs anyway, then maybe go the stage 4! Depends on your driving, if it's mostly street / city driving stage 3!
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:38 pm 
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phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
could someone give me an equal to the 1673 wade cam to one of these franklin cams?

http://www.camshafts.co.nz/Ford.aspx

only know the basics about cams and not really too sure, cheers!
1673 Wade cam is 264/258 I/E duration seat to seat. 206/198 I/E durations at 0.050 lift. Cam Lobe Lift 0.256"/0.242" Valve lift 0.512"/0.484"

Franklin offer these two cams which are close-ish:
3 RH44B 260/254º 198/193º .265/.252” .503/.478”
4 P14 270/272º 212/212º .254/.254” .482/.482”

I guess make a choice between the two! But, note with 0.265" lift at the lobe, you may need different valve springs. Wade recommend for an AU (stock beehive springs) anyway that 0.512" valve lift is the most that can be achieved before coil bind. As you said you'd be going with new springs anyway, then maybe go the stage 4! Depends on your driving, if it's mostly street / city driving stage 3!


sweet cheers for that man! is it a bad idea to go stage 4 since i use my car as a daily driver?

will i be looking at getting much of an increase with a stage 3?
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:04 pm 
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Brownbear wrote:
phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
could someone give me an equal to the 1673 wade cam to one of these franklin cams?

http://www.camshafts.co.nz/Ford.aspx

only know the basics about cams and not really too sure, cheers!
1673 Wade cam is 264/258 I/E duration seat to seat. 206/198 I/E durations at 0.050 lift. Cam Lobe Lift 0.256"/0.242" Valve lift 0.512"/0.484"

Franklin offer these two cams which are close-ish:
3 RH44B 260/254º 198/193º .265/.252” .503/.478”
4 P14 270/272º 212/212º .254/.254” .482/.482”

I guess make a choice between the two! But, note with 0.265" lift at the lobe, you may need different valve springs. Wade recommend for an AU (stock beehive springs) anyway that 0.512" valve lift is the most that can be achieved before coil bind. As you said you'd be going with new springs anyway, then maybe go the stage 4! Depends on your driving, if it's mostly street / city driving stage 3!


sweet cheers for that man! is it a bad idea to go stage 4 since i use my car as a daily driver?

will i be looking at getting much of an increase with a stage 3?
cheers
Your EB2 XR6 head should flow pretty well stock. Maybe ask to get the #3 RH44B but ask for the 198deg 0.503" lobe on both intake & exhaust lobes. So it's probably enough duration. I reckon that would provide the best combination of grunt.

If you have an auto, don't go the stage 4!
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 Post subject: Re: new cam help?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:06 pm 
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phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
could someone give me an equal to the 1673 wade cam to one of these franklin cams?

http://www.camshafts.co.nz/Ford.aspx

only know the basics about cams and not really too sure, cheers!
1673 Wade cam is 264/258 I/E duration seat to seat. 206/198 I/E durations at 0.050 lift. Cam Lobe Lift 0.256"/0.242" Valve lift 0.512"/0.484"

Franklin offer these two cams which are close-ish:
3 RH44B 260/254º 198/193º .265/.252” .503/.478”
4 P14 270/272º 212/212º .254/.254” .482/.482”

I guess make a choice between the two! But, note with 0.265" lift at the lobe, you may need different valve springs. Wade recommend for an AU (stock beehive springs) anyway that 0.512" valve lift is the most that can be achieved before coil bind. As you said you'd be going with new springs anyway, then maybe go the stage 4! Depends on your driving, if it's mostly street / city driving stage 3!


sweet cheers for that man! is it a bad idea to go stage 4 since i use my car as a daily driver?

will i be looking at getting much of an increase with a stage 3?
cheers
Your EB2 XR6 head should flow pretty well stock. Maybe ask to get the #3 RH44B but ask for the 198deg 0.503" lobe on both intake & exhaust lobes. So it's probably enough duration. I reckon that would provide the best combination of grunt.

If you have an auto, don't go the stage 4!



ok that sounds sweet, nah mate its manual tickford

 

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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Brownbear wrote:
phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
phillyc wrote:
Brownbear wrote:
could someone give me an equal to the 1673 wade cam to one of these franklin cams?

http://www.camshafts.co.nz/Ford.aspx

only know the basics about cams and not really too sure, cheers!
1673 Wade cam is 264/258 I/E duration seat to seat. 206/198 I/E durations at 0.050 lift. Cam Lobe Lift 0.256"/0.242" Valve lift 0.512"/0.484"

Franklin offer these two cams which are close-ish:
3 RH44B 260/254º 198/193º .265/.252” .503/.478”
4 P14 270/272º 212/212º .254/.254” .482/.482”

I guess make a choice between the two! But, note with 0.265" lift at the lobe, you may need different valve springs. Wade recommend for an AU (stock beehive springs) anyway that 0.512" valve lift is the most that can be achieved before coil bind. As you said you'd be going with new springs anyway, then maybe go the stage 4! Depends on your driving, if it's mostly street / city driving stage 3!


sweet cheers for that man! is it a bad idea to go stage 4 since i use my car as a daily driver?

will i be looking at getting much of an increase with a stage 3?
cheers
Your EB2 XR6 head should flow pretty well stock. Maybe ask to get the #3 RH44B but ask for the 198deg 0.503" lobe on both intake & exhaust lobes. So it's probably enough duration. I reckon that would provide the best combination of grunt.

If you have an auto, don't go the stage 4!



ok that sounds sweet, nah mate its manual tickford
Good luck, but importantly. Let us know how you go!
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:44 am 
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hey guys hopefully taking my spare cam to franklin after work this week if i get the time.
im looking at getting quite a upgrade from my cam so is it neccesary to get a 'j3 chip' what people talk about and how does it work?

im guessing its just a different chip from the standard one so they can tune it on a dyno?

correct me if im wrong please

 

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:32 am 
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A J3 chip would be good to get the most out of the cam upgrade. Problem is finding someone in NZ who is willing to provide a chip and custom tune it for the car on a dyno at a reasonable price. Ring around at some tuning places and see what prices they give you for supplying and custom tuning a chip.

Cheapest J3 chip you can buy would be one from Jason at TiPerformance in Aussie. Best bet would be to fit the cam after it has been done by Franklin's, book a time at a place who does dyno runs (Torque Performance in Avondale, Protune in Manukau, Eastern Automotive Performance Centre in East Tamaki, Auckland Performance Tuning in Papakura etc) and get a power run with AFR's done which will come with a print out. Should cost around $100~ from the quotes i have been given recently from Protune.

With the dyno print out, send it to Jason at TiPerformance. He will be able to alter the tune for you, burn it onto the chip and send it out to you. Refer to http://www.tiperformance.com.au/buy.html for pricing etc.

 

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:39 pm 
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ok sweet gotcha, so if i put my newly ground cam into my car without getting a j3 chip or tuned it should run ok? or does it depend on how much the cam has changed?

 

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