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 Post subject: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:15 pm 
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Hey guys, I've just put a redback 2.5" catback on my el, should I get a cam next or extractors? I wanna build more of a torquey grunta for launching off the line and towing stuff when I feel more sensible haha. Was thinking pacy 4480's are they more for top end or torque?
With the cam, I'm not really sure which to get, but will probably go a wade cam. Whatever cam I get, it has to have a bit of lump at idle haha.Which cam+extractors+exhaust combos have you guys got? What power have you gotten?
How much is a ti performance j chip+tune cost?
I was looking at the cms website, with their stage 3 cam it says you need isc and tps mods done- what's the go there? Anyway cheers for any advice

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:02 pm 
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i have a wade 977b in mine. makes ok power. id suggest extractors before cam. specs are in my sig

 

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ef futura, pacemakers, 2.5inch catback, k&n panel filter and 3.45 lsd. extractors/cat, ticky head, custom cam grind, t5. now onto cosmetics.

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:10 pm 
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ive also got a 977b in mine, with supporting mods (exhaust, tune etc) its alot of fun to drive. Mines auto btw.

 

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95 Ef Gli, mods : Tickford Head, Tickford ecu, Pacemaker 4499, Venom 100 cpi cat, Redback 2.5" catback, Wade 977b cam, ba xr6 intake and SS inductions, k & n filter & leather seats. 147.5kw @ wheels

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:24 pm 
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Haha sorry yeah mines auto derr nek minnut. BREAKING NEWS! Might be scoring an ed motor and trans off my uncle for S.F.A. :) So what's the idle like with a 977b? I want some lump haha

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:32 pm 
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buckets4LTR wrote:
Haha sorry yeah mines auto derr nek minnut. BREAKING NEWS! Might be scoring an ed motor and trans off my uncle for S.F.A. :) So what's the idle like with a 977b? I want some lump haha


i wouldnt say its lumpy, better than stock though. whats your plans for the ed motor?

 

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95 Ef Gli, mods : Tickford Head, Tickford ecu, Pacemaker 4499, Venom 100 cpi cat, Redback 2.5" catback, Wade 977b cam, ba xr6 intake and SS inductions, k & n filter & leather seats. 147.5kw @ wheels

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:36 pm 
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The ed and el motors are interchangeable right? Rebuild and mod the motor+trans out of the car then opinion em in the car

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:37 pm 
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buckets4LTR wrote:
The ed and el motors are interchangeable right? Rebuild and mod the motor+trans out of the car then opinion em in the car


ed dosnt run a bbm, el does. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this more than me though.

 

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95 Ef Gli, mods : Tickford Head, Tickford ecu, Pacemaker 4499, Venom 100 cpi cat, Redback 2.5" catback, Wade 977b cam, ba xr6 intake and SS inductions, k & n filter & leather seats. 147.5kw @ wheels

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Ed run clutch fan too? Manifold change no biggie though.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:30 pm 
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buckets4LTR wrote:
Ed run clutch fan too? Manifold change no biggie though.


If i help you out with the engine swap

Can i have the harmonic balancer that wont be needed pretty please?

You will need to swap the log to BBM simple

as its a EL the ED motor will still have a dizzy etc

Also you will need to re use all your known working EL stuff like power steering pump , tensioner, alternator , AC pump water pump , etc etc

tranny shall bolt up fine etc direct swap pretty much apart from the front belt set up and manifolds easy though
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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:45 pm 
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Yeah when I get it ill let ya know mate. The motor will be on an engine stand for a while I reckon. If I know my uncle the ed motor will be fairly rough. But I don't care ill strip it right back for a full rebuild, who knows maybe a turbo might find its way into the mix... :twisted:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:50 pm 
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buckets4LTR wrote:
I was looking at the cms website, with their stage 3 cam it says you need isc and tps mods done- what's the go there? Anyway cheers for any advice


CMS Stage 3 will hunt in the idle which is why Joe states that it will need TPS and ISC Mods. To get the best from this cam you will need head Mods as well. A SCT chip will help as well. You will need to upgrade your Valve springs as well, a Vernier gear is needed to dial this cam in as well.

Contact Joe at CMS for more info. I have a cam here that you can use for exchange as well if wanted for a small fee.
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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:14 pm 
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What cam do you have swc? When I get this motor off my uncle ill talk some business with ya :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:18 pm 
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swc has a stock cam to give to cms to regrind. as you have to supply them with a cam.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:22 pm 
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buckets4LTR wrote:
What cam do you have swc? When I get this motor off my uncle ill talk some business with ya :)


The cam is stock EF that just came out today with my motor, poor old girl is laid to rest.... :cry:

Head and cam is sitting at CMS now, Block is outside awaiting pickup for scrap. :(
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 Post subject: Re: Next upgrade?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:52 am 
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Power: 12 rwkw

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Planned mods for my spare motor I think, let me know if there's any silly/superfluous mods in there.
Steam/chemical cleaned block.
Cryogenic treated standard crank/rods.
New pistons/piston rings.
Au injectors (at least) or Bosch 36lb units.
300kpa fuel reg.
Walbro 255l/hr fuel pump.
Ticky head+wade cam or cms stage 3 cam+head.
Pacy 4480's.
Oil cooler+ remote filter kit.
J3 chip.
3" piping tb to airbox with pod inside.
New dizzy, probably msd.
New spark leads.
New h.v. oil pump.

I want at least 150rwkw, with these mods that should fairly doable yeah?

 

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