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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:56 am 
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Ok, during the manual conversion & head gasket job we snapped one of the side plastic guides. We removed the timing cover to replace it and couldnt find the smaller lower one, assuming its fell in the sump.

Is the lower one really needed? Car seems to be running fine without it.

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:37 am 
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You should have gone digging through the sump, it would have been there.
Yes it will be running fine, and yes it's needed, it will start to chew through the castings on the cover that the guide sits on.
If you're pulling the cover back off, i'd be buying a timing kit for it, definately worth it on the 6.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:32 am 
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So its prob not a good idea then to leave it?

Heres a pic of the one thats fallen in the sump. The long guides to the side have been fitted, just this small one at the bottom we couldnt be f**k finding. We had already dropped the sump a bit, and was not enough room. And we didnt feel like dropping the k-frame to get better access.

Gee, why didnt Ford make it easier to service these fukin things? :?

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:23 pm 
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When i stripped my old 4.0 down, that guide was chewed up and in the sump, my cover had also been chewed into from the chain... I'd definately be removing it and fitting a new kit.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:40 pm 
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Walker wrote:
When i stripped my old 4.0 down, that guide was chewed up and in the sump, my cover had also been chewed into from the chain... I'd definately be removing it and fitting a new kit.
yep same thing happened here .had to put a new kit in . not worth the risk.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:07 pm 
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'new kit'.....

Are we talking just the guides, or is that the chain as well?

Also, to replace the guides, does the chain have to come off?
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:11 pm 
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You get everything, gaskets, tensioner, guides and chain.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:34 pm 
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hey can you get to the bottom guide with the sump off? or do you differently have to take the timing cover off?

 

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:35 pm 
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Timing cover must come off, sump must be lowered a little cause it pushes tight underneath the timing cover.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:39 pm 
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might have to do same then. got told by a ford dealership not to worry about putting it back in. so i didnt. stupid idoits. well i gotta do my sump gasket soon so might do it same time so i got some room to get in there. how long on avg does it take to do the sump gasket on the 6cyl. ne1 done one b4

 

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