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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:43 pm 
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Howdy.

Ineterested in a "chip" for the Falc.

Just wondering what you guys thought would be, or is, the best way to go.

Lookin for something that will work in conjunction with my current mods.

Value for cash and ease of installment is a priority too.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:38 pm 
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not sure of the "samboy"??? n the tweecer can only see... the powerchip is just a plug in chip basically... that would be cheap installation.. but not tuneable from memory... the unichip is fully tuneable.. on dyno with a laptop though... not too cheap.. but can make the most of engine modifications... i have a unichip btw...

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:41 pm 
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As far as chips go I wouldnt go past a chiptorque. Unichip is to expensive for what it is IMO (only costs a little extra to get full aftermarket EMS in it). Powerchip = joke going by what people who have one say. Tweecer support for 6's just isnt there.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:50 am 
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Wait awhile CAPA are going to release a ECU Flash unit for EF/ EL soon, you can then change lots of parameters like transmission shifts/Kickdowns, speed limiting ETC.

At least I think it is for EF, positive its for EL tho.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:06 am 
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Wait awhile CAPA are going to release a ECU Flash unit for EF/ EL soon, you can then change lots of parameters like transmission shifts/Kickdowns, speed limiting ETC.

At least I think it is for EF, positive its for EL tho.


The problem here is that these have been 'a few months away' for 2 years now. Will be good when they get here, but keep in mind that an edit for E-series is much more complicated than AU or B-series, so it might be a while still.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:12 am 
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the edit is also something u cant fiddle with urself

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:19 am 
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i didnt think it was possible to flash an e series computer???????iam as dumb as dog s**t but...

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:25 am 
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read this thread http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25467

remember u only get what u pay for .

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:48 am 
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iam death wrote:
i didnt think it was possible to flash an e series computer???????iam as dumb as dog s**t but...


No mate, you are RIGHT on the money. No EF/L flash tuner in the next 50yrs

 

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It won't be a flash tuner, no f**k way (I stand by that)
I think will be twEECer style, seperate box that stores maps and is connected via J3.
Unlike twEECer, supposedly it will only hold one tune (bizarre really, if twEECer can do multiple tunes, CAPA should be able to...)
And yeah, we won't be able to touch it, it will have to be taken to a dealer that has the software. (stand by that too :P)
Software will be expensive, and only available to workshops.
Probably not very user friendly either.
IF it comes...
I'm not holding my breath at this stage.
Although I will be bloody excited if/when it does come out.

edit: reword, I don't actually know any of this for certain, it's merely a 'logical theory' I've formed.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:49 pm 
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Steady ED wrote:
It won't be a flash tuner, no f**k way.
It will be twEECer style, seperate box that stores maps and is connected via J3.
Unlike twEECer, supposedly it will only hold one tune (bizarre really, if twEECer can do multiple tunes, CAPA should be able to...)
And yeah, we won't be able to touch it, it will have to be taken to a dealer that has the software.
Software will be expensive, and only available to workshops.
Probably not very user friendly either.
IF it comes...
I'm not holding my breath at this stage.
Although I will be bloody excited if/when it does come out.


Hmmm - sounds suspiciously like a chiptorque

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:52 pm 
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With any luck the configuration files will be accessible and applicable to tweecer :)

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:57 pm 
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stockstandard wrote:
opto wrote:
Wait awhile CAPA are going to release a ECU Flash unit for EF/ EL soon, you can then change lots of parameters like transmission shifts/Kickdowns, speed limiting ETC.

At least I think it is for EF, positive its for EL tho.


The problem here is that these have been 'a few months away' for 2 years now. Will be good when they get here, but keep in mind that an edit for E-series is much more complicated than AU or B-series, so it might be a while still.


Agreed. Plus, while they sound like a good idea now, they aren't a proven thing, If ya know what I mean...
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4.9 EF Futura wrote:
With any luck the configuration files will be accessible and applicable to tweecer :)

I'd giggle my f**k a** off if they are! :lol:
And yeah stockstandard, very chiptorque like, from what I understand of chiptorques. But I have no idea on chiptorque's abilities.
Does it have full functionality? eg. trans control, SSS on EL Ghias, etc.
Cause if not, I think that might be CAPA's trump card.
Hence the lengthy 'coming soon'...

But we shall have to wait and see/not see I guess :P

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:05 pm 
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Agreed. Plus, while they sound like a good idea now, they aren't a proven thing, If ya know what I mean...


Exactly. Ive seen bits of the e-series ecu's via tweecer and I have to say it seems like a horrible thing to tune compared to aftermarket products. Compared to even a cheap aftermarket ecu like the MS2 - I just go into 2D tables and set the engine parameters for different engine conditions and thats what I get. With the EEC there are so many modifiers in there, and if they are not ALL unlocked what you see is not what you get.

I imagine tuners will get their heads around it soon enough, but I wouldn’t want to be in the first group of people getting it installed.

 

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