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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:23 am 
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i have done a dyno to get a reading of 175 kilowatts (234.68HP)at the wheels
so i know that much, so far.
How do i work out how much power i am giving out at the motor ????

ie. Au falcon i6 standard say 157kw but that is from motor not wheels . . .

does anyone know the answer to this question?

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:59 am 
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you guess generally. some say (engineers) that theres a definate % figure for driveline loss, which never seems to stack up with real world experience.

a stock falcon six from ef-au in respectable nick on an average dyno should net around 105 rwkw from what ive gathered from listening to others.

so getting 175rwkw is a bloody good run.

probably close to 240kw at the motor since xr turbos are around 180ish at the treads in stock form... iirc.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:03 pm 
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i ust want to confirm your motor is pretty seriously worked?? for 175rwkw... as you havent listed any mods to have achieved that power... -yet..
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: question about output power from i6 engine AU model
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:00 am 
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I generaly work on rwhp=fwkw or pretty close anyway. So in your case 234rwhp=234fwkw.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:49 am 
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ebxr82nv wrote:
I generaly work on rwhp=fwkw or pretty close anyway. So in your case 234rwhp=234fwkw.


Very rough, and also Very inaccurate, going by that, the Gas motorsport Supra (GAS2JZ) makes 1400Fwkw.. Mate, the only way to get power at the engine with any accuracy is an engine dyno.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:01 pm 
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cilkorules wrote:
i have done a dyno to get a reading of 175 kilowatts (234.68HP)at the wheels
so i know that much, so far.
How do i work out how much power i am giving out at the motor ????

ie. Au falcon i6 standard say 157kw but that is from motor not wheels . . .

does anyone know the answer to this question?


:shock: Id say this would need to have a snail/sc attached for these figures...or maybe a day in the "Mock" Garage...*lol* Or dyno is out by 20- 40rwkw!!!

On a serious note anywhere near that, are some serious numbers for a N/A 6

We all wanna know how its achieved!!!

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:18 pm 
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Im thinking he has boost of some description. I have 175rwkw too and mine is a mild s/c application.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:38 pm 
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raff-26 wrote:
cilkorules wrote:
i have done a dyno to get a reading of 175 kilowatts (234.68HP)at the wheels
so i know that much, so far.
How do i work out how much power i am giving out at the motor ????

ie. Au falcon i6 standard say 157kw but that is from motor not wheels . . .

does anyone know the answer to this question?


:shock: Id say this would need to have a snail/sc attached for these figures...or maybe a day in the "Mock" Garage...*lol* Or dyno is out by 20- 40rwkw!!!

On a serious note anywhere near that, are some serious numbers for a N/A 6

We all wanna know how its achieved!!!


I reckon, that's great numbers for an N/A 6!

I'd prolly be sitting at about 15-20rwkw below that

My best guess for fwkw would be to add around 20% on top for the auto, so if ur making 175 at the wheels, add another 35 = 210fwkw
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:05 pm 
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raff-26 wrote:
cilkorules wrote:
i have done a dyno to get a reading of 175 kilowatts (234.68HP)at the wheels
so i know that much, so far.
How do i work out how much power i am giving out at the motor ????

ie. Au falcon i6 standard say 157kw but that is from motor not wheels . . .

does anyone know the answer to this question?


:shock: Id say this would need to have a snail/sc attached for these figures...or maybe a day in the "Mock" Garage...*lol* Or dyno is out by 20- 40rwkw!!!

On a serious note anywhere near that, are some serious numbers for a N/A 6

We all wanna know how its achieved!!!


It's not that hard I'm making near 160 atw with a can and valve springs as the only internal mods, hasn't even had a tune yet.

 

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