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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:09 pm 
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sump is slightly different is it? Are AU's coil pack or dizzy? Is there something different about bolt holes on the bell housing?

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:16 pm 
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sump is slightly different is it? Are AU's coil pack or dizzy? Is there something different about bolt holes on the bell housing?


yes sump is different..au,s originally are coil pack.. but the block still has the dizzy hole and a dizzy can be fitted..
(im running a au vct with a dizzy in my ed!!)
and yes i forgot about the bellhousing... but if its auto this can be rectified by using an au bellhousing, as the e series box bolts straight up to the au bellhousing..
or you can use e series bellhousing, its just a matter of the 2 bottom bolts not lining up with the e series bellhousing...
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 Post subject: Re: Quote on el engine conversion
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:20 pm 
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oh ok so just gotta run the e series engine loom to use the dizzy then and your all set?

Is the manual box the same Troy? AU bell housing lines up all holes? Do you have to use AU engine mounts or are they no different?

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:26 pm 
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what kind of place would i need to goto to get the sump modified?

Will the AU bell housing come with the AU engine?

as you could probably tell im not very experienced as far as engines go
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:29 pm 
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timmytimtim wrote:
oh ok so just gotta run the e series engine loom to use the dizzy then and your all set?

Is the manual box the same Troy? AU bell housing lines up all holes? Do you have to use AU engine mounts or are they no different?


the e series manual box works fine with the au engine..(im still running ea t5) the e series box will bolt straight up to the au manual t5 bellhousing..(if you can find one)
unfortunatly the au t5 box extension housing is about 2" longer than e series so its not an ideal fit.(as the manual shift sits further back)..

its best to use the e series mounts.. as in fitting it to eb. use ea-ed mounts..
as in ef-el im not 100% sure.. but i think the au ones can be used..
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:30 pm 
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bell housing are usually sold with the gearbox if anything... Very unlikely to get one with a engine... You'd have to find someone wrecking an AU who is happy to part with it separate from the box... if your handy with a welder and angle grinder you can mod the sump yourself... Troy would know, Au's are still a steel sump aren't they, not alloy til BA?

 

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you guys are right on the money about the sump and the computer but you can also run a el sump but then you lose the advantage of the four bolt bottom end i work at mjr in aldury/wodonga we do this all the time and i cand tell you all the info is right but its not hard to cahange the loom and computer when the motors out
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:34 pm 
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Something slightly off the money here, but maybe you know troy, although very expensive, maybe one day I'd like a 6 speed BF box behind my ED motor, when they are cheaper, if ever... Can this be don't with the AU bell housing do you know, I know its a few inches long and gear stick is further back... Or is it an impossibility?


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timmytimtim wrote:
oh ok so just gotta run the e series engine loom to use the dizzy then and your all set?

Is the manual box the same Troy? AU bell housing lines up all holes? Do you have to use AU engine mounts or are they no different?


the e series manual box works fine with the au engine..(im still running ea t5) the e series box will bolt straight up to the au manual t5 bellhousing..(if you can find one)
unfortunatly the au t5 box extension housing is about 2" longer than e series so its not an ideal fit.(as the manual shift sits further back)..

its best to use the e series mounts.. as in fitting it to eb. use ea-ed mounts..
as in ef-el im not 100% sure.. but i think the au ones can be used..

 

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 Post subject: Re: Quote on el engine conversion
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:35 pm 
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bell housing are usually sold with the gearbox if anything... Very unlikely to get one with a engine... You'd have to find someone wrecking an AU who is happy to part with it separate from the box... if your handy with a welder and angle grinder you can mod the sump yourself... Troy would know, Au's are still a steel sump aren't they, not alloy til BA?


the au sums is alloy, very similar to ba..

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you guys are right on the money about the sump and the computer but you can also run a el sump but then you lose the advantage of the four bolt bottom end i work at mjr in aldury/wodonga we do this all the time and i cand tell you all the info is right but its not hard to cahange the loom and computer when the motors out


isnt the rear main cap different/ meaning the cap needs to be changed/modified to allow a steel sump to be fitted??? or can this be rectified by using el hybrid main caps??
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:41 pm 
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Any Machine shop should do the work for you, as long as they can weld Alloy.

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/au-sump-mod-for-e-series-t79648.html

 

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 Post subject: Re: Quote on el engine conversion
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:42 pm 
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the late el caps are the go they dont have the side drillings
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:49 pm 
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timmytimtim wrote:
Something slightly off the money here, but maybe you know troy, although very expensive, maybe one day I'd like a 6 speed BF box behind my ED motor, when they are cheaper, if ever... Can this be don't with the AU bell housing do you know, I know its a few inches long and gear stick is further back... Or is it an impossibility?


yes it can be done..i believe you can use your ed bell housing? not 100% on that though.. even though the shift sits a little further back it still will fit into the car.

here are a pic from xfwagons build thread showing the au box in an e series..
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 Post subject: Re: Quote on el engine conversion
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if you guys need any parts for your fords give us a ring at mjr automotive we also wreck fords
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fairmont54 wrote:
if you guys need any parts for your fords give us a ring at mjr automotive we also wreck fords


where abouts are you located mate? Looks like im going to need an AU bell housing
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im in wodonga vic but mjr is in albury nsw 711 drome street its the border but i have a au belhousing 50$its yours
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