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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:55 pm 
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Can I just undo the master link on the old one, ande cconnect the new one to it, run it through till the new one is all sitting on there undo the master link between the two and just close the link on them.

 

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undo the timing chain tensioner be alot easier :)

then it should be able to be slid on and off teh cam gear

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:31 am 
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undo the timing chain tensioner be alot easier :)

then it should be able to be slid on and off teh cam gear


yeah no joke mate. but you still have another two cogs down the bottom,a dn if you can undo the chains and connect them and pull the new one through it'd save removing the timing case and that.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:50 am 
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i think you'll find they dont have a master link..

you could buy a master link and cut the chains

 

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twr7cx wrote:
Disco Frank wrote:
undo the timing chain tensioner be alot easier :)

then it should be able to be slid on and off teh cam gear


yeah no joke mate. but you still have another two cogs down the bottom,a dn if you can undo the chains and connect them and pull the new one through it'd save removing the timing case and that.


sounds like a dodge way

do it propley do it once!

take the timing cover off u big baby it aint that much more work!

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:07 am 
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take the timing cover off u big baby it aint that much more work!


just out of interest, how many times you taken the timing cover off?

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:14 am 
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i think you'll find they dont have a master link..


I didn't think so either. But I borrowed a Timing Kit from work to check out the guides and that as i"m having trouble with my tensioner and that.
Pulled out the chain and saw this. It's a Nason one, genuine chains might not have them, I dunno.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:54 am 
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do you intend on rotating it by hand or something.

to do it your way you'd need two people,one to rotate the motor the other to make sure the chain don't slip.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:15 am 
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do you intend on rotating it by hand or something.

to do it your way you'd need two people,one to rotate the motor the other to make sure the chain don't slip.


That was the idea. Doing it that way would still save more than half the time!

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:45 am 
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yeah i like the principal of the idea but never heard or seen it done,,i suppose there is no reason why it wont work so long as it is kept tight while rotating the engine.

i rekon you could be on a winner with the idea,,so long as your confident enough to do it i say go for it.

 

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yeah i like the principal of the idea but never heard or seen it done,,i suppose there is no reason why it wont work so long as it is kept tight while rotating the engine.

i rekon you could be on a winner with the idea,,so long as your confident enough to do it i say go for it.


If in the Worst case (i.e. doesn';t work) you can always then remove the timing case.

 

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yep,,so it will be done one way or the other..good s**t

 

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twr7cx wrote:
Disco Frank wrote:
take the timing cover off u big baby it aint that much more work!


just out of interest, how many times you taken the timing cover off?


none but i am about 500 times more mehcanically minded than u
and i know what is involed and it not that hard...

the time u spend trying to pull through the new chain etc since u have never done this before!!! could be better spent removing and replacing the timing cover...


just out of interst why are u changine the timing chain for?

 

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Disco Frank wrote:
just out of interst why are u changine the timing chain for?


The timing chain tensioner isn't tensioning the chain enough and so it is hitting the chain guide on the passenger side. But if I use a big screw driver and 'help' tensioner the chain by pushing on the back of the drivers side chain guide (the one that the tensioner pushes) it stops hitting the passengers side one.
And yes, the tensioner is definately set right, it seems the chain may be stretched (at 650,000km's it might still be the original one!?!).
We found that assembling the tensioner with the tensioner already sprung and so it is hard into possition (i.e. doesn't have the 1-2mm of leeway that the spring provides) solves the problem, but this might be putting too much tension on the chain.

 

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