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 Post subject: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:07 am 
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Hey guys ive just finnished instaling my msd 6al into my ed 4l falcon and i started it up and it seems to idle a little rough until you rev it past 1000rpm then the roughnes go's away is there a reason for this or is it normal? Do i have to advance timing to help with the 6al
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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:20 am 
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You may need to check your ignition timing...........how good are your HT leads???

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:58 pm 
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Timing is stock 10c and the leads are 8mm topgun
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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:23 pm 
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sorry to hijack this thread but what gain would be seen in an el by using this set up? just looked them up on ebay they are around the $350 mark

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:03 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
sorry to hijack this thread but what gain would be seen in an el by using this set up? just looked them up on ebay they are around the $350 mark


I fitted an IC&E 7amp system ( simialr to MSD ), and gained more torque, and a flat torque curve like a common rail turbo diesel.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:24 pm 
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All good found out i needed to advance the timing idle's good at 18c advanced

I also found that my msd 6al made it rev alot smother into the topend and i now have a rev limiter of 6000rpm and i paid nothing for it
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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:29 pm 
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I have also read that people have seen gains of a drop in the 1/4 mile time by .4 of a second not bad for $350 buddy but i will say this if u buy msd 6al also get an msd blaster ss coil they work better together
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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:13 pm 
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thinkin bout it, how hard are they to wire in?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:33 pm 
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I can put up the diagram but its easy Msdignitions.com have the diagram on there site only wire i had troble with was the white wire having to go from one of the wires at the dizzy to the 6al

Solid red - +battery
Solid black - -battery
Red - 12v switch
White - coil - from dizzy (ed l6 is light pink wire)
Thin black - coil -
orange - coil +

If that make sence i also found advancing the timing helped it idle smooth

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:19 pm 
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Thanks, will look into it further soon ,

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 pm 
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the 6a is a little cheaper but does the same job..except without the rev limiter.
so would i be able to fit this to the el and the standard rev limiter will work from the ecu?
also il need to use their coil ?

thanks for any input to my questions

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:39 pm 
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Yes the 6a will work and your rev limiter will stay the same via the ecu and i use a bosch coil for mine and it works fine
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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle after instalg msd 6al
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:42 pm 
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Dose your el have a distributor? Im a holden man i have no idea
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:42 am 
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EDRAG wrote:
Dose your el have a distributor? Im a holden man i have no idea


Yep - EL went back to distributor after they tried coilpacks in the EF - then AUI went back to same coilpack as EF then AUII and AUIII went to a different type of coilpack that's somewhat more powerful than the EF / AUI coilpack.

Of those earlier cars, EL is the sweet spot for great well sorted design at a good price - and then if going to AU stay away from AUI

 

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