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 Post subject: Re: saloon car series racing-
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:47 pm 
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yeah 180rwkw is very close to the limit of stock head flow (i think).... obviously a longer duration camshaft is being used....ive had a little read of the regs and its very limited what can be done on the heads (match porting basically and some playing around with valve seat angles)...

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:55 pm 
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I found a Saloon car specs from an old thread in feb 2008,

here is some info of my mates AU Saloon car he came third at bathurst on the 9th of february 2008.

here is his web site if you want to get into contact with him and ask for more information about the cars

http://www.gtmracing.net

his car is also here
http://www.aufalcon.com/cgi-bin/index.c ... item&i=347



Both ya links are broken.

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Chris Milton Engine Developments 179kw



wish we could get more info on this setup. I'm guessing they arent to forthcoming with details.


There from a thread back in feb 2008 so there probably moved or gone.

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:20 am 
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For all the specs on the cars - check the CAMS Manual

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/02_race.asp#6th (Saloons are category K Touring cars.)

I am pretty confident the AU's and VT's have a lot more power than 179rwkw.

My EA Saloon has 164.6 rwkw, and I am running that on BP Ultimate (the National guys all run e85). The AU's and VT's fly. They pull so much distance on the straights from the EA'S AND VN's its not funny.

Power figures are usually kept pretty secretive. One of the guys had there EA dyno'd at the same place as mine earlier this year, and although I wasn't told the figure, I was told it was more than mine.

Its a really fun category - and very affordable. You can pick up EA Saloons from about $5k. AU saloons are usually around the $30k mark (although there is one for sale in Geelong at the moment for $15k, but it needs a lot of work)

If anyone is thinking about getting into state or national circuit racing, and was after a cheaper option - I would highly recommend looking into saloons.

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:18 pm 
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My EA Saloon has 164.6 rwkw, and I am running that on BP Ultimate (the National guys all run e85).


do u have to run the 3.9 ea engine or can u fit later stuff???

i wouldnt be surprised if the ea motor only pulled that figure the head is s**t

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:26 pm 
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do u have to run the 3.9 ea engine or can u fit later stuff???

i wouldnt be surprised if the ea motor only pulled that figure the head is s**t


Yeah - as per the regs, you have to run the 3.9L in the EA.

Mods are very limited. You cant even run the serpentine belt setup. (Which is annoying, cos I keep throwing power steering belts.)

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:00 pm 
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only alternator.

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:45 pm 
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Now that is one cool little class of racing... Chances of this ever happening in NZ are so damn slim... Sigh.


They have been running in NZ for a while. They are called "Super Six Saloons" over there.

 

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:27 pm 
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Now that is one cool little class of racing... Chances of this ever happening in NZ are so damn slim... Sigh.


They have been running in NZ for a while. They are called "Super Six Saloons" over there.


Yep XR8chic knows, they do have the super 6's over here but its like unknown :lol:

I remember seeing it a couple of times and hearing about it though other guys, they mostly run boxcars and VN's though havent seen any other later models over here yet. Only thing i know about them is that they apparently run full Coby exhaust systems. Wish they would show the bloody races on TV though, would be cool to see the good old 6's hammering around the track :D

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:01 am 
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They have been running in NZ for a while. They are called "Super Six Saloons" over there.
Yep XR8chic knows, they do have the super 6's over here but its like unknown :lol: I remember seeing it a couple of times and hearing about it though other guys, they mostly run boxcars and VN's though
STUFF ME? Really. You would have though I'd have heard something about it. That's the trouble with not having a track very nearby to Wellington I guess...

Well blow me down with a pitch fork. I'm off to Google...

Ahh... That's why they're all box cars... EA and EB1's only. Grimmace. That's probably why the VN's win everything too... Six cylinder EA's with almost no modification against the VN with no modification. I don't know why, but the VN's are winning everything. Call me stupid....

http://www.scranz.co.nz/forms/Sch_S6_20 ... con%29.pdf
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:18 am 
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Hey,

For anyone in Victoria who is interested in watching some Saloon car racing - we got 2 more race meetings this year. :mrgreen:

Next one will be the V8Supercar round at Phillip Island - November 6th - 8th. We will not be on the channel 7 broadcast.

And the final round for the year will be the Shannons Nationals at Sandown - November 27th - 29th.
This round will be broadcast on Speedweek a week or 2 later. :mrgreen:

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:37 am 
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XR8Chic wrote:
Hey,

For anyone in Victoria who is interested in watching some Saloon car racing - we got 2 more race meetings this year. :mrgreen:

Next one will be the V8Supercar round at Phillip Island - November 6th - 8th. We will not be on the channel 7 broadcast.

And the final round for the year will be the Shannons Nationals at Sandown - November 27th - 29th.
This round will be broadcast on Speedweek a week or 2 later. :mrgreen:


how long have u raced in this series?

far out that ED is nice...had a look at your site, have you really owned it for more than 10 years???

mustang is bloody nice too!

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:44 pm 
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gogetta wrote:
how long have u raced in this series?

far out that ED is nice...had a look at your site, have you really owned it for more than 10 years???

mustang is bloody nice too!


Hi,

I have been racing Saloons at State Level since July last year. Made my National debut in May this year. Only done 1 National round so far - but the next 2 are at National level.

And thanks - The XR8 is my baby. Come this Christmas, I will have owned her 12 years. (Damn - I feel old)

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:12 pm 
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Heres some footage to look at
http://www.youtube.com/user/hqrace85
http://www.youtube.com/user/saloonscott

Without giving too many secrets away 200+ HP at the wheels is pretty acheivable in an AU, as is mind bending torque (1000ft/lb)
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:05 pm 
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Heres some footage to look at
http://www.youtube.com/user/hqrace85
http://www.youtube.com/user/saloonscott

Without giving too many secrets away 200+ HP at the wheels is pretty acheivable in an AU, as is mind bending torque (1000ft/lb)


There's no secrets involved with making 200 rwhp from an au, it's only 149 rwkw. I didn't even need to get mine tuned to get more than that. Cam, extractors, exhaust and intake, only cost $1250 :lol:

 

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