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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:01 pm 
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ok so after changing the bcm and charging the battery the car kicked over for a few seconds the cut out
i couldnt get it started again so i rest set the timing to 0 deg tdc
went did some s**t for a few hours came back tried to start it again she kicked over an run for about 30 seconds then stopped but cant get it to to start again

got good spark now everything is priming just before you try to start the car
what else could be the cause im running out of ideas fast
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:11 pm 
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Maybe its more fuel related, if it started and fired then you have spark, obviously you would have air so that just leaves fuel....

Maybe fire some "start ya barstad" down the intake manifold to see if the car will spark and run while you are spraying the fuel.... if it does then it most likely will be something to do with a fuel blockage or getting no fuel. Or pump fuse or something

Not sure if "star ya barstad" damages sensors... I've done it and nothing happened to mine. Maybe one of the other guys here might have some more info about that.

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:26 pm 
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yeah going to have to try something otherwise im just going to rip the barstard motor out and drop a ticky inn that i have layiing around home
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:34 pm 
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Rip off the PCV hose, get a little funnel, and pour some petrol down the tube, start the car & see what happens, if it will run for a good while or not.

Not too much petrol, you will just flood the motor. You might have a blocked fuel filter or a buggered fuel reg.

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:54 pm 
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ok so it was a f**k fuel reg swapped over now
but now im sort of double guess the timing
here is what i did

remove the rocker cover and ahnd turn the crfank till the marking on the cam gear is 3 degrees above the head and the mark on the crank is lined up with the one on the motor marked as TDC
removed the dizzy and reinstalled it with the rotor pionting at the number1 lead on the cap.

ok after all the when you try to start the car flames are firing out off the throttle body now the timing light i just brought dosent even run so im going to have to take it back(a waste of my lunch break :evil: )

so what i guess im asking is, is this the correct way to set the timing??????
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:52 pm 
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I always do the pull out No 1 plug, get someone to turn over the engine by hand and stick my finger in the spark plug hole trick... so I know its on compression stroke... set it to TDC and check the dizzy and if wrong put it in the right spot.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:32 pm 
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here are some pics to clear up what ive done

 

 

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File comment: i have hand turned the motor till the mark on the crank lines up with the notch on the right marked TDC
while the mark on the cam timing gear is 3 degrees above the head
the notch on the left is IGN

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File comment: so with the motor set to TDC on piston 1 ive removed the dizzy
and reinstalled it with the rotor pointed at the number1 spark plug lead
with the firing order as 153624

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:01 pm 
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still no go
after f**k around with the timing still cant get it to turn over

any ideas
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:50 pm 
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There are 2 cog slots on the dizzy shaft that will slide onto the aux shaft and seem right with the position. What you have done is got the wrong cog slot and thus retarded your timing heaps. Remove the dizzy and slot it in on the next cog tooth..

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:22 pm 
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ive done that servel times even trying 180 degrees out but still nothing cant even get a cough out of it now
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:37 pm 
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can anyone help with this
is there any internal parts in the motor which wou;ld stop it from starting if they failed but still let the car turn over without any issues besides not starting?
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:47 pm 
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Jonathan Kakousidis wrote:
can anyone help with this
is there any internal parts in the motor which wou;ld stop it from starting if they failed but still let the car turn over without any issues besides not starting?


Yep. Are you sure your on the right TDC, as in on compression stroke?

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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:52 pm 
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yeah 100% sure
ill take some video tomorrow to show you what im doing exactly
but yeah this car is getting to me now ive hit a dead end :|
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:36 pm 
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here are some videos of my sis car its in two parts
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPQZbSkIfwY

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxomcO1RuV4

and before any one asks i have moved the rotor all the way around the dizzy 360 degrees now but still cant get any thing out of the s***
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 Post subject: Re: sisters eb wont start
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:06 pm 
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You sure the distributor rotor is turning?

Checked ecu for fault codes? If you have already done that, do it again.

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