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 Post subject: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:24 pm 
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what would be better a turbo or super charger like what are some pros and cons??

 

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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:31 pm 
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need more info.

What is your budget?
What engine do you have? Multi point or CPI?
Application for intended usage?
Transmission?
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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:02 pm 
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henrich performance and tunning at lonsdale he will suggest 6500bucks a ba xr6t engine, or he can turbo yours for 5grand only yours is limted and needs more to done to get bigger number, the ba engine much much more potential

he will say superchargers arent as good as modern turbos

iv spent 3grand with him and hes got me 154rwkw

soon il be getting that ba xr6t engine with one tune 250-270rwkw

 

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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:19 pm 
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mines just the 4 ltr dohc engine with efi nuthin spesh
i want speed and power
and its a 5 speed manual
low budget cheap as possible

 

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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:27 pm 
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ea-hecktic wrote:
mines just the 4 ltr dohc engine with efi nuthin spesh
i want speed and power
and its a 5 speed manual
low budget cheap as possible


is it the original engine? if it is it'll be a 3.9L and wait a minute! DOHC? is it a BA-FG engine?

 

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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:27 pm 
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ea-hecktic wrote:
mines just the 4 ltr dohc engine with efi nuthin spesh
i want speed and power
and its a 5 speed manual
low budget cheap as possible


i think u mean sohc :wink: , we also need to know more about your car/intentions, i assume that this will be down the track seeing that your only 18.

also the question asked was is it cpi or multi point?, meaning does it have one centrally mounted injector? or does it have one for every cylinder?

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 Post subject: Re: supercharger or turbo for my ea?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:32 pm 
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well turbo it then, u can buy kits for 3grand from snort but u need someone to install it and tune it whihc makes up the other 2grand or so

yours is an ea did u do a barra conversion ?

s/c kits are abit more expensive with less power, altho with good constant results

most people say on here to have 10grand to make your car a turbo so it can be reliable and handle the pressure

or the ba xr6t engine 6500 lots more potential

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:33 pm 
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its got one for every cylinder and sorry yerr its a sohc..yeah further down the track just wanna make plans though.. and its a 4 ltr bottom with a 3.9 head WILDEB

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:37 pm 
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yeah nah dont know what a barra conversion is

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:46 pm 
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well then is a 3.95L or something like that. what 4L bottom end is it?

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:13 pm 
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ea-hecktic wrote:
yeah nah dont know what a barra conversion is


"Barra" is the BA Falcon.

I'm not too sure how much power they have stock but it would be somewhere in between the 157KW AU and the 195KW FG. Of course those figures are from the standard engines, the AU VCT engine has 168KW.

See if you can buy a wrecked BA for a good price, then you'll have all the parts needed for the conversion.

Or just buy a cam etc, full exhaust and better differential gearing for your current stuff. You could probably do all of that for around $1000 or under if you shop smart :wink:
And you can do other things as you have the money for more performance too.


But if you just want a cheap decent gain and don't really care about longevity then you could buy a cheap Ebay copy or second hand turbo, then all you'd need in the manifold (if you don't get it with the turbo gear), an air filter/intake piping (if you wanted to do it semi-properly) and possibly some really cheap bits like water/oil pipes, etc.

You could also upgrade from that scenario over time as money permits too, like a BOV, cam etc, exhaust, better intake, intercooler, tune, differential gearing.


None of that probably helps much, but it's there anyway :P

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:26 pm 
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bodgy bob style mabye 3grand turbo set up, some people have done it on here and its turned out well

and the ba engine had 180kw and i reckon the bf had 190kw

if u have the time and dont mind your car not working for a week or two then give a turbo kit ago yourself

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:31 pm 
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BA had 182kw
BF had 190kw

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:13 am 
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paulos wrote:
well turbo it then, u can buy kits for 3grand from snort but u need someone to install it and tune it whihc makes up the other 2grand or so

yours is an ea did u do a barra conversion ?

s/c kits are abit more expensive with less power, altho with good constant results

most people say on here to have 10grand to make your car a turbo so it can be reliable and handle the pressure

or the ba xr6t engine 6500 lots more potential


3 grand for a turbo set up might sound sweet and all but remember it needs to be tuned, installed, are you going to run low boost or risk blowing the s**t out of your engine on stock internals? are you going to upgrade the drive train etc etc all costs money, its not just simply buy a turbo kit and off you go. Do you want the thing engineered? Brake upgrades and all that, alot to think about mate.

Well thats my two cents but yeah a little more to it than you might think, and its not so much what is better...and superchargers will not always give less power as you say, it depends on what is done, how the car is set up..if it is set up for turbo or super charger etc and a ba conversion is not the easiest of jobs and it all comes down to what you want to spend.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:23 am 
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You can buy my whole setup motor turbo microtech ect all bolt straight in :wink:

 

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