You're comparing a Forced induction car to a N/A car. That's comparing apples to oranges.
When you compare apples to apples in currently selling cars, you'll see its a different story.

Double post.

AFAIK forced 6s are supposed to be in the same category as the 8? The XR6T is recognised as the rival to the SS, not the XR8 etc...

Naturally Aspirated is a class. Forced induction is another class.

no BF 190kw s2 xr8 185kw, twincam is still an I6


get real mate comparing a new emmisions restricted 6cyl to a unrestricted V8
imagine if that V8 had to meet the same reg back then.

imagine how much power the 4L engine could have given the same condition with emissions regs. let just put tripple webbers and a nice rev friendly cam in and see what happens. it'd be the hemi 6pac all over again. 6s canning V8. oh wait that happend anyway!

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i was talking about the 220kw AU.

that was au2 tickford_6

it's still an AU isn't it who cares what series it was

i think you sould go back an have a good read for you self befor you start talking like that.

as this was the post you made after the comment with steadyED






i Knew who i was talking too. you didn't read the post.
and from there all the s**t started. hahaha you got upset from your own confusion

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becuase au was gay, au2 at least got a bit better.

yes but they are both an AU.

Okay so you're still keen to go off topic.
Yes lets "imagine", lets put the same technology into the six and eight, both back then and now, with the same type of induction per cylinder and a "nice rev friendly cam"... oh dear, the eight with its extra cylinders and higher capacity would win. What a surprise.
Obviously you are keen to live in a special little world where the technology of the six is prevalent and the technology of the eight is absent, that way you can justify your reasoning. To reiterate, you still wish to compare new design with old design and I envy you the mental comfort you must entertain with these thoughts running rampant through your head.

man i love it how twist every thing to suit your self.

but ok then play it your way.. you like to note that the I6 is only making more power then a 20yo V8. lets take you 20yo old v8 and the 4L ohc engine. both factory built long engines.

%100 stock
the V8 has intake flow of 155cfm @ .500" 130 @ .300" and 84 @ .100"

the I6 has 210cfm @ .500 175 @ .300" and 60 @ .100"

work it out total flow acros 6 and 8 cyls.
the V8 total @ .500" is 1240 .300" 1040
and for the I6 @ .500" is 1260. .300" 1050

are we seing a pattern here???
cylinders and cubes have bugger all to do with outright power.
it's about how much air you can get into the cylinders that counts.

thats is my friend why the I6 is a better engine
oh yeah and the fact the block doesn't crack in half with any sort manly amount of horse power

flow figures taken from
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=334773 for the V8
and http://www.kec.com.au/cnc_products_ford ... heads.html for the I6

Are you serious? You haven't yet stopped comparing a recent model I6 to a engine design that is almost as old as yourself.



Why? It was that very 20 y/o inconsistency in your comparison that I pointed out above? Why not for example, compare the last 4L SOHC with the last Windsor factory fitted into the AU's? At least they were both released around about the same time instead of having a 20 y/o age gap between them? Wouldn't that be fair?
But hey, if comparing a 20 y/o engine to a recently designed 4L helps you keep your arguement afloat then go right ahead. Nothing else seems to convince you otherwise.

your the one bringing up the age gap mate....... there we go again trying to twist things your way



i say put the new engine under the same emissions regs as the old one and then your next post you twisst it to the same technology and when i keep it on the topic you started you get upset...... hmmmm





the only time in the I6 ohc history the V8 had the upper hand..

why dont we compare the the EF windsor the the EF I6 both reasled at the same time.
oh hang on a sec i already did that.


but just for you here is the AU V8

196cfm @ .500" 168 @ .300" 61 @ .100"

total 1569 @.500" 1344 @ .300"

happy now one model of car where the windsor and I6 ohc were the engines the V8 was better

but you stillhave piss weak block, it's like ohhh 500hp CRACK


Feel free to consider that the I6 by this time had not undergone any mayjor improvment in cylinder flow and in fact the AU head has less flow the EB. also consider it took 13 years for the V8 to grow some balls and finaly out perform the I6..