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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:28 pm 
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dude. do you listen? in your other thread i told you numerous times that you need 2 SHIMS IN EACH ROCKER ARM. don't complain now if valve meets piston. i can't believe you put in 3 shims. but only in some of the arms.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 pm 
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ok did u even put the shims in the right way, and is it a regrind or not u havent answered this?? and 3 shims, nooo.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:41 pm 
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dude. do you listen? in your other thread i told you numerous times that you need 2 SHIMS IN EACH ROCKER ARM. don't complain now if valve meets piston. i can't believe you put in 3 shims. but only in some of the arms.


I'm with Wildeb here... Your a tool mate...

When you buy a regrind cam they say fix a second set of lifters... not 2 more sets... We are dealing with measurements to the thou... You will have valves that aren't closing properly now... and opening onto a raised piston too early...

If it rattles with 2 sets of shims in it the lifters are not sealing... either by seals and service the genuines or buy aftermarkets and fit them...

The reason it stopped when you flogged it was because the high oil pressure stopped the lifter from collapsing... Soon as it stops and the pressure drops I bet your tick comes back... Replace the the lifts and for god's sake that the 3rd shim out of each arm... Listen to whats told to you from now on...

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:44 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:34 am 
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dude. do you listen? in your other thread i told you numerous times that you need 2 SHIMS IN EACH ROCKER ARM. don't complain now if valve meets piston. i can't believe you put in 3 shims. but only in some of the arms.


I'm with Wildeb here... Your a tool mate...

When you buy a regrind cam they say fix a second set of lifters... not 2 more sets... We are dealing with measurements to the thou... You will have valves that aren't closing properly now... and opening onto a raised piston too early...

If it rattles with 2 sets of shims in it the lifters are not sealing... either by seals and service the genuines or buy aftermarkets and fit them...

The reason it stopped when you flogged it was because the high oil pressure stopped the lifter from collapsing... Soon as it stops and the pressure drops I bet your tick comes back... Replace the the lifts and for god's sake that the 3rd shim out of each arm... Listen to whats told to you from now on...

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:04 am 
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im listening man but wen the gu did it he put 3 shims under 2 arms co they were loose as f**k still wat do i do about them being loose as f**k is that coz the lifters are f**k or wat coz he said should be fine but yer im not sure
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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:20 am 
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im listening man but wen the gu did it he put 3 shims under 2 arms co they were loose as f**k still wat do i do about them being loose as f**k is that coz the lifters are f**k or wat coz he said should be fine but yer im not sure


I suggest leaving only 2 shims in each rocker arm. 3 is a bit dangerous...could damage your valves if they do touch the piston. If a mechanic is doing it...be wise and get a second opinion.

By loose, do you mean the lifters aren't held tightly inside the rocker arms? If so then that is rather normal, especially if the retainers were removed from the lifters. All my lifters fall out if I was to remove the rocker assembly...they are only slide in and are not held in tight at all, car runs fine without ticking.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:55 pm 
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plus if they aren't sealing (the ball valve inside them that is) then they will collapse by hand when you push on them anyway... Thats how you check which ones need replacing... Ones that are stiff and can't be compressed by hand are good... One that will push down (lifter collapsing) are the ones that are dirty inside and not sealing...

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:07 pm 
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azzaxr6 wrote:
im listening man but wen the gu did it he put 3 shims under 2 arms co they were loose as f**k still wat do i do about them being loose as f**k is that coz the lifters are f**k or wat coz he said should be fine but yer im not sure


yeah its normal for them to be a little loose and even fall out, but it doesnt matter once its on the valve, itll hold itself together, a common method is to even actually tie/tape them to the arm while refitting them to hold them in place

But i dont see how adding a 3rd shim helps, wont this just push the lifter further out???



if you are really worried about it, put a new set of lifters in?

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:44 pm 
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ahhk could it be the thinker oil in it making it tick coz atm i havent got any oil pressure so will that make a diff if i put thinner oil in ?
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:01 pm 
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ahhk could it be the thinker oil in it making it tick coz atm i havent got any oil pressure so will that make a diff if i put thinner oil in ?



wtf :? :? so you have no oil pressure and your running it??? :roll:
thats why its ticking, you need oil pressure to lubricate the engine and to keep the lifters pumped up...
seriously, if you have no oil pressure? your engine is as good as dead...
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:24 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
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ahhk could it be the thinker oil in it making it tick coz atm i havent got any oil pressure so will that make a diff if i put thinner oil in ?



wtf :? :? so you have no oil pressure and your running it??? :roll:
thats why its ticking, you need oil pressure to lubricate the engine and to keep the lifters pumped up...
seriously, if you have no oil pressure? your engine is as good as dead...


Cmon Troyman, oil pressure is overrated right?


don't worry dude, just keep ripping it up, you wait till the second page of this to drop that little nugget. No oil pressure = rooted bottom end somewhere. no amount of shims can fix that. until you have oil pressure you cannot get the HLA's to pump up, until that happens you cannot get rid of the chatter. Have you put a mach gauge on to double check for impending death?

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:50 pm 
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lol @ runnin it with no oil pressure :lol:
just go out do some burnouts till it stops.. its fuked anyway. :twisted:

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:54 pm 
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heres 1 way to fix the tick......LOL

 

 

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 Post subject: Re: ticking noise
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:26 pm 
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lol well there is a little bit of oil pressure coz there is oil getting to it coz yer otherwise it would be dead by now theres just not as much as its spose to get to it so i went and talked to my mate today his got a workd nf he said put thinnner oil in it and it should be fine
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