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 Post subject: well new head went on and i still have the same problem
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:05 pm 
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well guys you know i have just put and reco head on the 4.0 motor because we had blue smoke on hard reves and there was that much condensation pouring out the exhaust well i have done a new ef head guy on here called splatt he had that ef head for sale two years ago i got that one used a Au head gasket now the lifters are very noise i use hes rockers and cam. Well its still doing the condensation pouring out the exhaust and it smell really bad like carbon monoxide and hunting a little have not run the car for more then 5 or ten minutes
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 Post subject: Re: well new head went on and i still have the same problem
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:10 pm 
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Isn't blue smoke burning oil?

So are the rings on the pistons knackered and letting it past?

Did you do any tests before you pulled the head off? Pressure test the cooling system? Compression test each cylinder?

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:15 pm 
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TimmyA wrote:
Isn't blue smoke burning oil?

So are the rings on the pistons knackered and letting it past?

Did you do any tests before you pulled the head off? Pressure test the cooling system? Compression test each cylinder?

Cheers,
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its not blowing blue smoke that i know of now but it still condensation pouring out the exhaust

no i did not test the compression of the head or the cooling system a friend just told me that it might be the inlet manifold on the water side it might have a crack in it and letting water in the fuel and gas
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 Post subject: Re: well new head went on and i still have the same problem
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:19 pm 
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Remember the Cat turns exhaust gasses into less harmful gasses plus H2O... Hence you see it run out of some peoples exhaust...

Does the car use water?

Was coolant ever used? May have corroded through into a cylinder?

When you pulled the head off were any cylinders shiney inside/under the head that would indicate proper burning was not happening? Unlikely to be the inlet manifold... Never seen it... Usually leaks from water gullies through the head gasket into the cylinders...

I'd be running some tests on it to see what the issue is...

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 Post subject: Re: well new head went on and i still have the same problem
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:28 pm 
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TimmyA wrote:
Remember the Cat turns exhaust gasses into less harmful gasses plus H2O... Hence you see it run out of some peoples exhaust...

Does the car use water? [not sure have not had the motor long]

Was coolant ever used? [May have corroded through into a cylinder? when i took the motor out of other car i got it had coolant]

When you pulled the head off were any cylinders shiney inside/under the head that would indicate proper burning was not happening? Unlikely to be the inlet manifold... Never seen it... Usually leaks from water gullies through the head gasket into the cylinders...[no there was no shiny bits on the cylinders]

I'd be running some tests on it to see what the issue is...[ yes i will go and get a Compression test
toromorrow and and do some test now what about the tap noise as far as i know they are new and the head has been sitting for two years]
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:34 pm 
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if you've only run the car for 5-10 mins since the reco head, the chances are you still have oil/much/water in the exhaust, it takes a good hot run to remove all foreign s**t from the pipes.

 

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:37 pm 
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Krytox wrote:
if you've only run the car for 5-10 mins since the reco head, the chances are you still have oil/much/water in the exhaust, it takes a good hot run to remove all foreign s**t from the pipes.

i will try that tomorrow and see what happens
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:52 pm 
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all right i have a embarrassing thing to tell when i took the head off i drained the radiator from the top hose not the bottom hose and when i lifted the head water went all over the place and down in to the piston cylinder i got the head off and dried the motor of with rags and thought nothing of it to now with what Krytox said so hit me now im a idiot
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:14 am 
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i wouldnt feel too much like an idiot.. everyones made a mistake here and ther.
and hey you havnt broken anythin.

 

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Benny D wrote:
i wouldnt feel too much like an idiot.. everyones made a mistake here and ther.
and hey you havnt broken anythin.


well i do feel like a idiot i hope that all it is this think is driving me insane i need to fix it asap because my wife needs to use the other car three days a week to drive to ballarat for her nursing course and i need this car thats causing the trouble to drive kids to school
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:18 am 
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no harm done mate... At least were smart enough to get it all out and not leave it there and cause a hydraulic lock... Then you'd be in trouble... Just check the oil and make sure it isn't milky or that you can see water on the dipstick... If so change the oil...

 

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thanks timmyA im going to run it today and hope to god it drys out i m might take the rocker cover of and pour some oil over the tappers to get them oily why its running
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:07 pm 
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well i took it out for a drive all went well i still have a cough in it but the temp stay on quarter and stayed that for 40 ks well i turned around to come home and put my foot down a little to take of and the motor went really high and i was in drive it took off so quick i could not stop the throttle cable must have got stuck on my gas air filter i hit the brakes and tryed to stop but it would not stop i went on to the side of the road and hit a white post and went into a gully drain on the side of the road thank goodness that i got stuck in the ditch beacause there was a house the i was heading towards well i have a stuffed front gt bar down the bottom were the driving lights go and the gaurd is all so stuffed and flair but nothing i cant buff out lol car running ok still
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:24 pm 
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throttle stuck just knock it outta gear and hit the kill switch

 

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Benny D wrote:
throttle stuck just knock it outta gear and hit the kill switch

ok i will do that next time if i think of it but i was not sure if knocking it off gear would hurt the auto
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