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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:07 pm 
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Hi guys, I want to change my cam and springs today.
I was planning on using some extension cord shoved into the spark plug hole and then taking the springs out etc.

I was just wondering, how do I know when the piston is at the top?
at TDC piston 1 and 6 are at the top, but what about the other 4 cylinders?

Or does anybody know where you can buy one of those spark plug / air compressor adaptors from in perth?

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:37 pm 
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just take the plugs out and shine a torch in the hole and you will see the piston if its at the top.

just make sure its on compression stroke, should be easy to tell with the rocker cover off.

the pistons will work in 3rd i think.

eg 1&6 and TDC 3&4? will be at BDC and 2&5 will be half way.

 

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:37 pm 
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Someone may have one you can borrow locally? firing order for the i6 is 153624 i think, which would mean at 120 degrees from top dead centre when turned in the right direction, cylinders 5 and 2 would be at top, and another 120 degrees would bring 3 and 4 to the top.

 

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:38 pm 
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EggHead wrote:
Hi guys, I want to change my cam and springs today.
I was planning on using some extension cord shoved into the spark plug hole and then taking the springs out etc.

I was just wondering, how do I know when the piston is at the top?
at TDC piston 1 and 6 are at the top, but what about the other 4 cylinders?

Or does anybody know where you can buy one of those spark plug / air compressor adaptors from in perth?
a local machine\engineering shop can turn it up,supply aplug and a tail fitting for the hosefitting,or modify a spark plug.

 

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:46 pm 
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Thanks guys, hehehe never thought of using a torch :oops:

I was thinking it worked in thirds, but is it necessary for it to be on the compression stroke because I'm not planning on using compressed air?

Was just gonna jam as much extension cable into the cylinders as possible then 'hopefully' the valves wont drop into the cylinders. Although the valves wont fall all the way in will they (if a mistake is made)?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:41 pm 
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EggHead wrote:
Thanks guys, hehehe never thought of using a torch :oops:

I was thinking it worked in thirds, but is it necessary for it to be on the compression stroke because I'm not planning on using compressed air?

Was just gonna jam as much extension cable into the cylinders as possible then 'hopefully' the valves wont drop into the cylinders. Although the valves wont fall all the way in will they (if a mistake is made)?
if the stem seals are ok the valves will stop there,a pickle fork will compress the springs to get collets out,then replace the springs and reassemble,you may have to push the valve up higher to get collets in the grooves and lock,lifting throuh the plug hole.

 

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:48 pm 
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ok kewl.

Just having a little trouble with not being able to get the valves to stay up, need more stuff lol
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:21 pm 
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instead of using extension cord..
try using thin rope ..
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:25 pm 
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i will have a better look for some, tryed using that elastic bungy cord type stuff, but nope.

Plus my sikchrome valve compressor broke, not happy.
just the bottom washer thing came apart and I have to hold it together til theres tension.

But for now, im hungry.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:12 am 
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EggHead wrote:
i will have a better look for some, tryed using that elastic bungy cord type stuff, but nope.

Plus my sikchrome valve compressor broke, not happy.
just the bottom washer thing came apart and I have to hold it together til theres tension.

But for now, im hungry.
sidchrome gear is garanteed,so can be replaced

 

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:49 pm 
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ok kewl, yer i got them all off alright.

In case anybody is wondering the cam gear rotates 60 degrees giving another cylinder full compression.
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