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 Post subject: while I'm whinging
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:47 pm 
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it also has a annoying CLUNK sometimes CLUNK,CLUNK,CLUNK! when turning near full lock. The "experts" at two wheel alignment places say "nah mate, can't see a problem everything looks fine mate" I say did you drive it, they say " dont need to mate nuthins wrong mate" any ideas.

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:56 pm 
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Proberly stating the obvious, but if that were me, Id be out of there and at the desk of a GOOD mechanic ASAP.
Are there any rub marks in the wheel arches on tyres or susp. components?

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:57 am 
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definatly find a new place top spend ur hard earnt green... they dont respect you... i bet cahances are they would find the prob if they just drove your car...

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:05 am 
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Rack, tie rod ends, there is only a few thigns in the front end that can clunk, shocks, bushes perished, what model is this?
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:22 am 
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Ball joints are a possibility, if they are original they are probably stuffed.

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:41 am 
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it's a 12/97 EL with 92,000k's. It has new Gabriel shocks...note... BAD choice. The ball joints are originals but seem fine, I will check the rack today.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:11 pm 
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Whats wrong with the gabriels? I hear they are just pedders in disguise....

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:06 pm 
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what's wrong with them? 1) the ride is very poor compared to other brands like Monroe. 2) I found out after I bought them they have the highest warranty claim rate of all shock absorbers (mainly blown seals) 3) they loose there damping qualities very quickly. 4) Its worth the extra to get a higher quality shock. Gabriel are made in S. America, sold by junk shops like Supercheap Auto. Pedders are Monroe in disguise.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:39 am 
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Ahhh...point noted.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:12 am 
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sorry to burst your bubble but according to a pedders rep who came to my workplace a while ago, pedders is cheap nasty korean or chinese crap, the cheapest they can import, repaint, and box back at there wharehouse. pedders do use gabriel shocks repackaged with pedders packaging. the only quality product in a pedders box is there springs which come from king springs but at the same time are not made from the same quality steel as kings. so pedders can keep the costs down and stay in competition with kings. thats why with pedders springs your car is noticably lower within 12 months of fitment, but i can't say i've seen king springs sag like that.

information from pedders rep who warned me not to pedders springs in a vh sle i owned a few years ago.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:22 pm 
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I know Pedders springs are made by King springs, but rhere was a big s*itfight about a year or so ago about them sourcing their shocks from Monroe and reselling them as a different brand. Who really knows for sure.

whats that in your mirror?
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:11 pm 
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not my mirror but is a chopper of some sort

 

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:41 pm 
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not bad!
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:37 pm 
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wheel alignment guy found the clunk in the front end, rack was loose, crossmember loose???, lower control arms loose. Its nice and quite now.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:46 pm 
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noabs wrote:
what's wrong with them? 1) the ride is very poor compared to other brands like Monroe. 2) I found out after I bought them they have the highest warranty claim rate of all shock absorbers (mainly blown seals) 3) they loose there damping qualities very quickly. 4) Its worth the extra to get a higher quality shock. Gabriel are made in S. America, sold by junk shops like Supercheap Auto. Pedders are Monroe in disguise.
Very interesting.. No 1 you say ride is poor compared to other brands,what else have you tried and why did you buy them for..No 2 Who quoted that statement to you.and what seal blows .No3 i fitted a set to a track car and he doesnt have any damping problems..Our workshop fits a lot of Gabriel shoacks to cars and have never had a problem, personally i prefer Konis

 

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