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 Post subject: Re: Who does the WPN heads?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:21 pm 
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Yeah I am running a WPN Head EFFalcon, i have a restricter in my exhaust and my car is auto....

We all know Auto and Stallie = loss of rwkw

I aint even trying and I got 175.1rwkw with Dyno Sheet to Proove it even though my AFR's are all over the place

Stock bottom end, just rebuilt with the same 300,000klms Cast Pistons........its all there in plain view what I have done to my car in my build thread on AFF, none of this secret squirell stuff or $4,000 Black Bottom End lol

Here is the link if you doubt me http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11227304

We will see what times my car runs at the AFF drag day :)

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:30 pm 
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kinda missed the point we were trying to make there didnt you? lol
but yes, will be interesting to see what time you run

 

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 Post subject: Re: Who does the WPN heads?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:39 pm 
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kinda missed the point we were trying to make there didnt you? lol
Nah I just didnt reply as didnt want to go around in circles with what factors go into making a good 1/4 mile

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but yes, will be interesting to see what time you run
Autos are faster so see what happens lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: Who does the WPN heads?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:41 pm 
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fair call.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:07 pm 
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DRHEMI wrote:
misk_one wrote:
kinda missed the point we were trying to make there didnt you? lol
Nah I just didnt reply as didnt want to go around in circles with what factors go into making a good 1/4 mile

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but yes, will be interesting to see what time you run
Autos are faster so see what happens lol

I'm yet to see an BTR Auto E series into the 13's. There are a few manuals there. Also, I don't trust Dyno sheets, as they can be made to read high.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:22 pm 
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67RCE wrote:
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Is he Swanny?

The guy who tuned my car from Bullet Performance Racing said he had a bloke in there called Swanny that made nearly 200rwkw with an NA E series Falcon.

He said it was s**t to drive and had a fairly short powerband but it made good power.

Pretty impressive seeing as I only made that with 5psi.


He said it was s**t to drive and had a fairly short powerband but it made good power.
That leans towards to much camshaft to compensate for lake of port flow.

a good head will need less camshaft and will have a good power spread.

and from what I have seen, with a good cam, headwork isn't required while staying N/A. Power on a Dyno is one thing, driveability is another. OED666 has the perfect example of that. 165rwkw, 13.8@101mph. There are cars with more power that are significantly slower. I can name one forum member who made 175rwkw but can only manage a 14.2, another made 225rwkw turbo'd and ran a 13.7....


stating times doesn't prove a thing.
tell me how heavy the cars were and what MPH they did, THEN we can start comparing things.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:36 pm 
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tickford_6 wrote:
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tickford_6 wrote:
Dansedgli wrote:
Is he Swanny?

The guy who tuned my car from Bullet Performance Racing said he had a bloke in there called Swanny that made nearly 200rwkw with an NA E series Falcon.

He said it was s**t to drive and had a fairly short powerband but it made good power.

Pretty impressive seeing as I only made that with 5psi.


He said it was s**t to drive and had a fairly short powerband but it made good power.
That leans towards to much camshaft to compensate for lake of port flow.

a good head will need less camshaft and will have a good power spread.

and from what I have seen, with a good cam, headwork isn't required while staying N/A. Power on a Dyno is one thing, driveability is another. OED666 has the perfect example of that. 165rwkw, 13.8@101mph. There are cars with more power that are significantly slower. I can name one forum member who made 175rwkw but can only manage a 14.2, another made 225rwkw turbo'd and ran a 13.7....


stating times doesn't prove a thing.
tell me how heavy the cars were and what MPH they did, THEN we can start comparing things.


OED - 1640kg - 101mph. 165rwkw
Turbodrift - 1650kg - 100mph. 185rwkw
BrockyB8 - 1650kg, 99mph. 183rwkw

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:01 am 
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lol
*waits for another excuse*

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:02 am 
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are they legit weights though, or estimates?

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:39 am 
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i think it all just comes down to car setup and driver skill.
obviously some are better than others.
20rwkw isnt much difference when you give or take the fact that no one dyno reading will be the same and 2 drivers even driving the same car will get different times unless they're both very switched on...

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:24 am 
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How much do the heads cost ?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:38 am 
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thats what im trying to work out

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:55 am 
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67RCE wrote:
DRHEMI wrote:
misk_one wrote:
kinda missed the point we were trying to make there didnt you? lol
Nah I just didnt reply as didnt want to go around in circles with what factors go into making a good 1/4 mile

misk_one wrote:
but yes, will be interesting to see what time you run
Autos are faster so see what happens lol

I'm yet to see an BTR Auto E series into the 13's. There are a few manuals there. Also, I don't trust Dyno sheets, as they can be made to read high.


There was a video on boosted a while back of a EF/EL with BTR and 3700 stall running a 13.7 NA.

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:19 am 
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67RCE wrote:
OED - 1640kg - 101mph. 165rwkw
Turbodrift - 1650kg - 100mph. 185rwkw
BrockyB8 - 1650kg, 99mph. 183rwkw
Where did you get those figures from - my rego sticker says 1450 tare? or did they weigh them on a weig bridge as stock yeah 1450 but with my stereo prob another 200kg

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There was a video on boosted a while back of a EF/EL with BTR and 3700 stall running a 13.7 NA.
Post it up :)

Isn't that then the fastest eseries na 6cyl? as is current on your Boosted Forum 1/4 Times ?

13.797 @ 157.3km/h EA Fairmont N/A 6 Cyl 4.0L --------- Grechie
13.82 @99.67mph - ED Futura N/A ---------- OED666
13.98 @99.51mph EA Brock Falcon N/A---------Turbodrift

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Is the tare weight the dry weight or wet weight but with half a tank of fuel?
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