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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:48 am 
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lol sorry about that but its a good cause :P

when i say thin... umm open your bonnet and look at the engine bay relays, you will see the 4 wires that come out, 2 thick 2 thin... i hacked up a loom to get them. the wires im using are also loom wires and also thicker automotive wireing for the thicker earth and power wires.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:44 pm 
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with each relay,
1 of the thick wires is fused battery positive.
the other thick wire is to the thermo fan.
1 thin wire is (in your case) ignition.
the other is earth.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:00 pm 
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That's what I drew up and it overloaded

You will need to use a resistor if the relay inputs are geting 12V evidently
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:03 pm 
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yeah i think the realy was also stuffed...

are there differences between the relays? i think one might be a 5 pin and the others a 4 pin.

ill try the A/C one and see what happens

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:08 pm 
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Huggie there is no difference between the two except the 5 pin has a terminal for both the "on" and "off" position where the 4 only has a terminal for "on"

Your best bet is to chuck a multimeter set to read amps in series with the relay on the thin wire before it grounds
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:33 pm 
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actually some 5 pins have a double up terminal (87).
what you drew up shouldn't have overloaded the circuit, you should not need a resistor. you more than likely have a fault somewhere.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:35 pm 
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yeah i will recheck it all tomorrow night, after i do more work on my car

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:10 am 
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:10 am 
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ok all i got from the last diagram was a s**t of smoke... and i mean alot of smoke, like a mini gary myers... so i was given this one to try. so tomorrow night or tuesday ill unsoldier the wires and try it this way.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:08 am 
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That is exactly the same...
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:05 am 
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the differences are

first diagram | new diagram
switch | earth
earth | battery +
battery + | thermos
thermos | switch

so those 2 listed are what change between each daigram

 

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what a relay consists of is basically a coil of wire and 2 contacts. the coil of wire is magnetised and therefore closes the contacts and creates a circuit.
30 is B+
87 is Output (thermos)
85 is Ignition
86 is Earth

85 and 86 are your coil of wire (low current).

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:23 pm 
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Huggiebear do you have the original wiring harness for the thermos.
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no. they were custom fitted to an EB. so i started with the 2 wires from each thermo

 

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Are you going to use an EL ecu to fire every thing up
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