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 Post subject: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:39 pm 
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G'day all,

Can anyone shed some light or advice on this one.

I removed an aerial from the Ford Falcon AU Series II, I assumed it was an automatic, but nope she was manual type.

I installed an automatic one and have tested it to raise and lower prior to installation.

However, I could not find the two wires to which these would connect to inside the vehicle.

The question is, do I have to make the wires up as there is no switch?

Should there be wires already available as the aerial came out for a wreck identical to mine.?

Another question...do I need a seperate switch to raise and lower the aerial as I assumed it would raise when radio is swiched on and lower when radio is of.

I have replaced the factory radio with a modern one that plays MP3.

All info is welcome
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:04 pm 
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Depends what class it is...

If you say fairmont yeah I'd reckon the wires should be there...

If you say futura... I'd reckon the probably aren't and your body module wouldn't have the smarts to work it anyway...

Now there is two types of electric aerial...

The Ford type which works with the Body Module and the two height position switch on the dash, which would be integrated with the factory head unit to know when your on radio and when your on CD...

The second type is the aftermarket type which is either full height or all the way down... These work better with aftermarket head units... So with these ones one wire is powered off your constant at the back of the CD player and the other comes out of the trigger from the CD player... Both power means Ant goes up, only const powered means Ant goes down...

If you have an aftermarket CD player think you may have trouble getting the factory type Ant to work... If you have a low class AU then you will need to run the wires and change the module & add in that Hi/Lo switch to get the factory one to work...

If you go with aftermarket Ant and CD player you just have to run the two wires... from the back of the CD player across the glove box and down through the passenger kick panel...

Sort of make sense? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:17 pm 
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If you add it in then I'm guessing you still have to add the Dash switch for the Hi/Lo to Ash? Plug would be there?

Also swap out the BEM or it will work?

But will this combination work with the after market CD player he has? Can the trigger be fed back into the BEM to trigger the Ant? Does the BEM look for high or lo signals on its input wire to sense the radio being on, or is it something different and feeding 12V into the BEM to try it might blow it up?

If it were me I'd be leaning to the aftermarket Ant and running my own wires... :?

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:34 pm 
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How about I take a few pics and post it. Give me a day or so.

Cheers, Peter
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:05 pm 
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All I can say is the vehicle from which I removed the auto aerial was from a 2000 model Series AU II with no other description.

Mine is also an AU Series II June 2000 with no other description so it's difficult to say if its a Forte or anything else, its simply a Falcon AU Series II Year 2000 and thats about it.

For some reason it was a manual aerial originally.

The Radio / CD unit is a Kenwood brand, I don't know if there was any wires that came with it that was designated power aerial.

I had the factory fitted cd / radio removed as each time the battery was disconnected one had to enter the unlock code and the other reason is that it did not support mp3 music files, only wma files as far as I'm aware of.

If it supported MP3 music files I would reinstall it.

Photos will be taken Monday.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:51 pm 
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ashcook wrote:
Take some photo's of the interior and exterior and I will tell you what type of Falcon you own.


Hello ashcook,

Thanks for your message.

Is there anything in particular you want me to photograph in the interrior and exterior to assist in identifying the type of Falcon I own?

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:50 am 
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Hmmm, ok , I'll take a few of each
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Ok here are some pics of the vehicle.

I have no idea what model is which when there are no other descriptors.

Cheers.

 

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:26 am 
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Hmmm,

How interesting , so its bit of a bitsa.

Off topic

I know the header for the radiator tank does not have a sensor, big difference in the cost too.

According to Ford...without sensor $80.00, with sensor $160.00..just for a piece of plastic.

Why would you need a sensor when you can pop open the bonnet and see the level of coolant?
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:33 am 
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Does this sensor act like some type of fail safe device, that is, if coolant level gets too low will it shut the engine down?
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:12 am 
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Its actually a brilliant idea... Because when your cruising down the high way and blow a heater hose you will get the light on the dash before you cook it... Gives enough time to switch it off and come to a rest somewhere...

If your cluster has the capability, then the light comes on with the sensor disconnected...

As far as I'm aware all e series had this plug in the loom, and only the 6 gauge cluster had the light...

I imagine all Au would have the plug too?

Personally I think its a brilliant idea... I'm surprised more cars don't have one...

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:18 am 
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Yeah well EA falcons with the 6 gauge cluster had this feature (never looked at any with the 3 gauge cluster)...

My ED had the 3 gauge cluster from the factory...

I added the 6 gauge cluster, the light comes on... Plug in the header tank (full of water) and light goes out... :D

Was easy for me...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:23 am 
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Ford have always been know to do weird things... Esp when you get close to a model change... You end up with a little from column a and a little from column b in a car from column c... :?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:28 am 
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The old man has an XH hybrid ute at work atm which has done a head gasket...

So you have an AU head, on an EL block, in an XG ute, with an EF/L front end, with an EF/EL instrument cluster and an ED centre console...

Its the most bitsa vehicle I think I've ever seen... :?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto Aerial replacing manual
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:28 pm 
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hahahahaha, sounds like the old car I use to have before I switched to Ford
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