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 Post subject: Re: 94 fairmont hids
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:34 pm 
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The only real problem with using halogen projectors is that the flare up on the passenger side is too tall. HID has such a high intensity that the light in the flare is also extremely bright and, due to the height of it, will get other drivers in the eyes occasionally. But no way near as often as many other headlights would when fitted with a HID kit.

H1 based headlights are the best suited to HID bulbs simply due to the orientation of the filament and the HID arc replacing it. Ford's XR projectors use H1 globes so they work quite well in terms of maintaining the original beam pattern. What you're missing out on though, with these projectors, is the width that a proper HID projector has.

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:43 pm 
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That is the minimal difference I have noticed , the passengers side beam is a little longer. And they dont seem as wide, but everything else is good

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:53 pm 
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Mitch_ wrote:
TimmyA wrote:
On second thoughts...

I think you may be finding your "better" statement simply because you're comparing 18 year old projector technology used in the XR lamps to modern day projector technology used in current cars and current HID retrofits...

Remember in 18 years everything has come a long way... The element in the end of the lamp is better refined, better shaped, and better processed glass...

This is most likely why you reckon a modern day projector lamp is superior to a XR projector lamp, it has nothing to do with the light bulb that resides behind the element...

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cars i was comparing were the same age mate - and i think you'll find the way the two emit light is a lil different..


So many experts without first hand experience hey Mitch. Didn't you have factory HID's that you compared to a retro fit into another car? I'd take your word over someone else!

 

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 Post subject: Re: 94 fairmont hids
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:10 pm 
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67RCE wrote:
Mitch_ wrote:
TimmyA wrote:
On second thoughts...

I think you may be finding your "better" statement simply because you're comparing 18 year old projector technology used in the XR lamps to modern day projector technology used in current cars and current HID retrofits...

Remember in 18 years everything has come a long way... The element in the end of the lamp is better refined, better shaped, and better processed glass...

This is most likely why you reckon a modern day projector lamp is superior to a XR projector lamp, it has nothing to do with the light bulb that resides behind the element...

Cheers...

cars i was comparing were the same age mate - and i think you'll find the way the two emit light is a lil different..


So many experts without first hand experience hey Mitch. Didn't you have factory HID's that you compared to a retro fit into another car? I'd take your word over someone else!


Cheers Brett...

Like I said if he can roll out the scientific proof behind what he is saying then I'm quite happy to agree with his concept... Until such date it doesn't seem to me to be physically possible... I agree with the facts, always have always will... So please... Enlighten me... I'm all ears...

Also the argument wasn't so much the comparison between factory and retrofitted light bulbs... It is him telling us that HID's don't work in a XR projector lamp... Same lamp in question, different light source... I am just wanting to know why it doesn't work when the focal point behind the glass stays constant?

 

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A good time to get definitive answers - read mavs19's threads - e.g. ford-bodykits-f15/hids-behind-xr-projectors-t33739.html
A good thread is the large HID one he did.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 94 fairmont hids
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:53 pm 
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TimmyA wrote:
67RCE wrote:
Mitch_ wrote:
TimmyA wrote:
On second thoughts...

I think you may be finding your "better" statement simply because you're comparing 18 year old projector technology used in the XR lamps to modern day projector technology used in current cars and current HID retrofits...

Remember in 18 years everything has come a long way... The element in the end of the lamp is better refined, better shaped, and better processed glass...

This is most likely why you reckon a modern day projector lamp is superior to a XR projector lamp, it has nothing to do with the light bulb that resides behind the element...

Cheers...

cars i was comparing were the same age mate - and i think you'll find the way the two emit light is a lil different..


So many experts without first hand experience hey Mitch. Didn't you have factory HID's that you compared to a retro fit into another car? I'd take your word over someone else!


Cheers Brett...

Like I said if he can roll out the scientific proof behind what he is saying then I'm quite happy to agree with his concept... Until such date it doesn't seem to me to be physically possible... I agree with the facts, always have always will... So please... Enlighten me... I'm all ears...

Also the argument wasn't so much the comparison between factory and retrofitted light bulbs... It is him telling us that HID's don't work in a XR projector lamp... Same lamp in question, different light source... I am just wanting to know why it doesn't work when the focal point behind the glass stays constant?


i didnt say they didnt work i said they put out a shocking beam pattern.

I really can't be bothered writing up some massive posts - but halogen use a fillament - HID's use an arc to obtain the light.
google it and find it - or read thru mavs' posts...

 

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Heaps of science here too.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech ... sions.html

 

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