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 Post subject: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:07 pm 
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Anyone know of getting defected on 19inch rims?
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:14 pm 
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as in why...or someone that has?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:21 pm 
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iv herd you can only go 2 inch's bigger from stock rims is that right?
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:24 pm 
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in sa not sure about other states but pretty sure its 2 inches bigger than the plate that has tyre sizes usually found in the door
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Not sure about SA but QLD (someone correct me if Im wrong) the rule use to be mags cant be exceed 2 inches larger then what was fitted from factory but the rule has been changed to rolling diameter, not sure of the exact size but its something like 15mm, cannot exceed xxmm larger rolling diameter then what was factory fitted.
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:17 pm 
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Yes in SA you can only go 2 inches bigger than what the maximum sizes rim is on the door card !

 

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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:43 pm 
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peaandham wrote:
Yes in SA you can only go 2 inches bigger than what the maximum sizes rim is on the door card !


Nope its 15mm now :)

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:44 pm 
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Ford-sxr6 wrote:
peaandham wrote:
Yes in SA you can only go 2 inches bigger than what the maximum sizes rim is on the door card !


Nope its 15mm now :)



whaaat?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:00 pm 
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I thought it was 3 inches. :mrgreen:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:13 pm 
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alfy wrote:
Ford-sxr6 wrote:
peaandham wrote:
Yes in SA you can only go 2 inches bigger than what the maximum sizes rim is on the door card !


Nope its 15mm now :)



whaaat?


Yep! so if u have 15inch stockies u can goto 18inch :) and maybe with a real low profile tyre u can have 19inch!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:23 pm 
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thats heaps cool then thanks heaps
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:53 pm 
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I got a mate who get defected in an ED 2 weeks ago on 17's!!! had to go down the copshop with him and a copy of VSI8 to straighten them out!! It was TMU aswell.

The two inch law thing, as far as i can make out, is more a guideline

Page 3 of VSI 8 (im pretty sure the VSI applies to all states)
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/CC48FC10-4D57-4F04-82E1-3BD72EF88340/0/VSI8.pdf
States:
RIM must be no more than 25mm wider than widest rim offered on the model
Overall tyre diameter must be no more than 15mm larger than largest diameter
Overall tyre diameter must be no less than 15mm smaller than smallest diameter
Track increase on frontof no more than 25mm
Track increase on rear of no more than 25mm on IRS, 50mm on solid axle.

So it depends on what model u are talking about

Im getting 19's for my ELXR6, and i made sure they are legal before ordering them:
Use http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts/falcon/index.html to find what tyre combinations came out on your model
Then plug the sizes into http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres/tyre-sizes/sizing-your-tyres.aspx to compare sizes


Specifications Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Rev/Miles Difference
205/65-15 133 mm 324 mm 648 mm 2034 mm 492 0.0%
225/50-16 112 mm 316 mm 631 mm 1984 mm 504 -2.5%
245/35-19 86 mm 327 mm 654 mm 2055 mm 487 1.0%

So 19x8 rims from 16x7 rims means within 25mm rim width
the diameter of 245/35-19 is 6mm more than 205/65-15
And 20mm wider tyres would add 10mm of track per side of car, so 20mm overall track increase, front and rear. Ive spoken to TMU about it, when they got my mate, and they agreed with that paperwork, ur a** would be covered
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:22 am 
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No standards. Maybe there NEEDS to be an Australia wide standard for these things?

All I can find out is that 2" is the max allowed to go over the size of rims but, I seem to remember that once it was calculated on the MAX size allowed for your model? Like the max for EF-EL was 17" for the model and AU was 18" and BA is 19"? Maybe I am wrong but finding any real info is like finding an honest Car Salesman :D
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:48 am 
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No, you can keep your standards. We here in WA are doing just fine :D
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 Post subject: Re: Defect
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:28 pm 
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rainoffire wrote:
I got a mate who get defected in an ED 2 weeks ago on 17's!!! had to go down the copshop with him and a copy of VSI8 to straighten them out!! It was TMU aswell.

The two inch law thing, as far as i can make out, is more a guideline

Page 3 of VSI 8 (im pretty sure the VSI applies to all states)
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/CC48FC10-4D57-4F04-82E1-3BD72EF88340/0/VSI8.pdf
States:
RIM must be no more than 25mm wider than widest rim offered on the model
Overall tyre diameter must be no more than 15mm larger than largest diameter
Overall tyre diameter must be no less than 15mm smaller than smallest diameter
Track increase on frontof no more than 25mm
Track increase on rear of no more than 25mm on IRS, 50mm on solid axle.

So it depends on what model u are talking about

Im getting 19's for my ELXR6, and i made sure they are legal before ordering them:
Use http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts/falcon/index.html to find what tyre combinations came out on your model
Then plug the sizes into http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres/tyre-sizes/sizing-your-tyres.aspx to compare sizes


Specifications Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Rev/Miles Difference
205/65-15 133 mm 324 mm 648 mm 2034 mm 492 0.0%
225/50-16 112 mm 316 mm 631 mm 1984 mm 504 -2.5%
245/35-19 86 mm 327 mm 654 mm 2055 mm 487 1.0%

So 19x8 rims from 16x7 rims means within 25mm rim width
the diameter of 245/35-19 is 6mm more than 205/65-15
And 20mm wider tyres would add 10mm of track per side of car, so 20mm overall track increase, front and rear. Ive spoken to TMU about it, when they got my mate, and they agreed with that paperwork, ur a** would be covered


20mm wider tyres will not add 20mm to track width, as track is centre of tyre to centre of tyre

 

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