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 Post subject: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:38 pm 
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I have an issue with my wheel nuts, they wont come off. I used a ratchet first, and broke it, then a wheel spanner, and bent that, then tried a rattle gun, and that didnt work. Is there something else i should try?
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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:42 pm 
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Is this on your au?? if not what sort of car is it? left hand threads maybey?? lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Gas Axe? :)
Maybe take it to a tyre place and see if they can help you?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:15 am 
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Try spraying the nuts with Rostoff or similar and let them sit for a while - do this a few times, hopefully some will soak into the threads and the taper.
Rattle gun is probably your best bet - ensure it's a single hex fitting, can you up the air pressure on the gun ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:43 am 
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my dads a old tyre fitter and what most likely has happened here is u or who ever fitted the tyres didnt put some grease on the threads and they have rusted shut now to fix this u will need something incredibly strong (dad uses a steel wheel spanner or a breaker bar with the proper socket) and some WD40 first soak the nuts in WD40 then instead of applying constant pressure u need to apply strong short bursts (u will need to apply the hand break as its possible for dad anyway to break parts of the gear box this way) as u start to get somewhere make sure to apply more WD40 otherwise it will cease again once u have them off soak the inside of the nuts in WD40 then clean then with a dry rag do the same for the threads then make sure to apply some grease (u will want a really thick grease one that can have a big blob on ur finger and its capable of staying on it when held upside down its usually a really dark blue)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:03 am 
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well, i got half the wheel nuts off, but with great difficulty, and soaked em, then resoaked, then re-resoaked them, lol, with no success. Ill buy another wheel spanner tomorrow, one that is a single piece, so it cant just bend at a hinge this time, lol. Thanks for the advice guys
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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:05 am 
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Fordsrule174 wrote:
then make sure to apply some grease (u will want a really thick grease one that can have a big blob on ur finger and its capable of staying on it when held upside down its usually a really dark blue)


Reads post title once more................... :shock:
Ohhh...........I thought were talking about something else for a second there...... :|

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:15 am 
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EF_96_XR wrote:
Is this on your au?? if not what sort of car is it? left hand threads maybey?? lol

Yeah be wary of this, more so on euro cars than aus and us but still.
otherwise as above, plenty of wd40 etc.

p.s. what sort of rattle gun/compressor?, and was the setting adjusted right. At work the rattle gun wasn't suitable for doing wheel nuts to be honest, well more so I suspect the warn out f**k compressor.

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I've given up on it becoming a bit of an enthusiast, let alone if I was trying to make money off it. :lol: :twisted: :roll:

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:04 am 
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I always use a breaker bar to loosen over tight wheel nuts, much more leverage than any wheel brace

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:43 pm 
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I wouldnt even have a clue how to set up a rattle gun, and the compressor was about 20 years old. It all worked and everything, i dont know what sorta pressure it had though, it seemed to have quite a lot but
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:04 pm 
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I used a T-bar, 1.5m pole on the end of T-bar, right socket on the end of a wheel nut long socket. Bent the T-bar but the nut came off after giving the lever pole a good wack.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:52 pm 
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Old man is mechanic... Other thing that causes it is lazy tire places rattle them on...

He has a 1m long breaker bar... Plus a thick walled piece of pipe to add a bit more length... then he jumps up and down on it... sometimes this only just works... rattle guns do nuts up tight... Never use them for wheel nuts myself... Esp lock nuts (easier to round off as the key's aren't hardened)...

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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:03 pm 
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put the socket on the nut with an extension attached and give it a few firm hits with a hammer. If threads are rusty, it will loosen it up. Works every time.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:27 pm 
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TimmyA wrote:
Old man is mechanic... Other thing that causes it is lazy tire places rattle them on...

He has a 1m long breaker bar... Plus a thick walled piece of pipe to add a bit more length... then he jumps up and down on it... sometimes this only just works... rattle guns do nuts up tight... Never use them for wheel nuts myself... Esp lock nuts (easier to round off as the key's aren't hardened)...

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Never come across a type place that doesn't use a rattle gun.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Over tightened wheel nuts
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:29 pm 
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most now just rattle them on and then check and tension with a breaker bar or torque wrench... They do here anyway...

Other option is those limiters for the rattle guns... But I'm unsure how well they work? Just the extension bar that goes thin in the middle so when the tension becomes so great the bar twists instead of the nut...

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