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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:25 am 
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Sounds simple right?

Well, in this case, the following are my objectives:

(1) Enable Memory Mirrors and Mirror Dip During Reverse
(2) Upgrade from Dual Airbags to Quad Airbags (including Side Airbags)
(3) Integrate Memory Seats to High Series BEM for Keyfob Activation of the first 2 memory locations.
(4) Drivers 8-Way Powered Seats with Memory and Passenger 6-Way Power Seats. Leather.

This is combining a few smaller projects into one.

I'll post my activities and results as I progress.



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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:06 am 
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How about tackling a big problem next time. lol.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:37 pm 
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I been lining this one up for quite some time. It's good to feel the planets finally aligning.

Ever since the DZ ICC conversion I've looking for something more challenging...!

These are my current risks:

(1) I've been told the RCM is a real munt to change out while the dash is in place. I guess I better prepare for that.

(2) The RCM is manually programmed with a 'PROG_ID' value. This can be retrieved by a Mode 22 query to PID 5942. This PROG_ID tells the RCM to look at 3 pins, and determine if they connected to GND, IGN or Not Connected. This is a bit of a gotcha - and is why you can't just change RCM from car to car. But now I know about it I think I've got it sorted. I'll talk about that later.

(3) There are 5 PIDS in the RCM that say 'RCM Version conflicts with X' where X is either Front Impact Sensor, Passenger Impact Sensor, Drivers Impact Sensor, OCS (Not sure what that is) and Hardwired VID which I reckon is the PROG_ID. I'm not sure of the implication of this yet - whether it means you can't mix and match sensors or not. I will mitigate this by using the same sensors that came with the RCM, but since this will leave me with a spare RCM and front sensor, I'll work on this after the fact.

(4) The leather on the seats is a little damaged. Consultation with a 'Leather Doctor' franchise operator with pictures has made me feel better. But still, it stays a risk.

(5) LWB Loom Length and Rear Numberplate Lights. Because I'm changing looms to support the side impact sensors and extra power on the passengers seat, the extra length is a mild concern - but I expect I can take that up in the parcel shelf. Better to be too long than too short! And the Fairlane has the number plate in the rear bumper, not on the bootlid, so hopefully the plug to the bootlid harness is still populated on the LWB Loom.


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:06 pm 
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1, 2, and 3 sound like potential show stoppers, 4 is just a case of $, and 5 worst case, you can splice in you existing boot loom.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:31 pm 
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(1) Nah, Ive been there. The carpet is the biggest pain. When installing they have to be torqued just right so that the resistance to GND is at the right value. I can measure that.

(2) Nah, it's a Loom thing. I've got the right looms.

(3) If I get the sensors that are with the current module I should be right. More research post-install will follow.


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:39 pm 
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And while he is at it he will cure cancer and solve world hunger.

Man I love your mods. Post up pics!
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:06 pm 
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OCS = Occupant Classification System.

It's the sensor in the Passenger Seat that determines which of the two-stages the airbags will deploy. Probably based on the weight I would say.

The options for the values that sensor can have (PID 5966) are:

0, Empty
1, Below Minimum Threshold
16, Indeterminate
17, Above Maximum Threshold
22, Occupied Medium
25, Occupied Large
255, Invalid

OK, so just another sensor then, fine. I'd have that one on the seat.


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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:15 pm 
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Lukeyson wrote:
OCS = Occupant Classification System.

It's the sensor in the Passenger Seat that determines which of the two-stages the airbags will deploy. Probably based on the weight I would say.

The options for the values that sensor can have (PID 5966) are:

0, Empty
1, Below Minimum Threshold
16, Indeterminate
17, Above Maximum Threshold
22, Occupied Medium
25, Occupied Large
255, Invalid

OK, so just another sensor then, fine. I'd have that one on the seat.


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That information would be a classic if it could be displayed on the dash for the occupants

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:27 pm 
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"Hey fatty I'm not going to deploy the airbag"

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:03 pm 
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I found the PIDS that show serial numbers for the sensors.

So if the RCM checks the serial numbers of the snesors for version compatibility - maybe this is it?

The RCM Serial Number is in E231 and E232
Drivers Side Sensor is in E237 and E238
Passenger Side Sensor is in E239 and E23A
Front Sensor is in E23B and E23C

Only the RCM PID has been showing me different values between types of vehicle, the rest show me FFFFFFFF.


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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:13 pm 
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Parts ordered today.

Kit list is:

(1) BF Fairlane Leather interior. Drivers 8-Way powered seat (the 8th way is drivers recliner position - I'll have a good look at Lumbar and see if I can maybe do that one day) with Memory, and 6-Way powered Passenger seat. Rear seat bench/back and side bolsters (I'll have to redo the side bolsters somehow). All 4 door trims with BF door handles.
(2) I already have Memory Mirrors, Mirror Modulator Controller and Drivers Door Harness.
(3) Airbag Module - BF Type B RCM
(4) Driver and Passenger side main harnesses (for powering the seats, running memory lines and connecting to the side airbag sensors)
(5) Front and both side Airbag Sensors


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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:06 pm 
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Hey Lukeyson, where are you getting your parts from as I'm after a couple of exterior body mouldings from a BA Fairlane...the left and right mouldings that attach to the rear dogleg section between the back doors and the rear wheelarch....cheers Linz.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:27 pm 
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:44 pm 
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Just some extra data on the loom part numbers that I was looking at in order to support the following:

(1) Premium Audio
(2) Reverse Module Integration with ICC
(3) Side Airbags
(4) (Optional) Sat Nav

LHS Main Loom:

I currently have:

BA 14A005 C WIRING ASSY - MAIN, WITH AUDIO PEP PACK, XR6/FAIRMONT, PET ENG

I would need:

BA 14A005 G WIRING ASSY - MAIN, GHIA OR
BF 14A005 A WIRING ASSY - MAIN, FAIRLANE/LTD



RHS Main Loom:

I currently have:

Not quite sure. I'll get back to you shortly

I would need:

BA 14405 C WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, GHIA, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BA 14405 F WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BA 14405 G WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, GHIA, WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM

Or Fairlane Looms:

BF 14405 A WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, FAIRLANE/LTD, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BF 14405 L WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, WITH COLEMAN MILNE SVP, FAIRLANE, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BF2 14405 L WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, WITH COLEMAN MILNE SVP, FAIRLANE, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BFF 14405 A WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, LESS COLEMAN MILNE SVP, FAIRLANE/LTD, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BFF 14405 B WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, FAIRLANE/LTD, WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BFF 14405 L WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, WITH COLEMAN MILNE SVP, FAIRLANE, LESS NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BL 14405 A WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, FAIRLANE/LTD, WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM
BL2 14405 A WIRING ASSY - REAR LAMPS, FAIRLANE/LTD, WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:57 pm 
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The airbag modules that can handle side airbags are:

BA 14B321 B MONITOR - AIRBAG DIAGNOSTIC MODULE, 4 DOOR SDN/WAGON, WITH FRONT SIDE AIR BAG RESTRAINT & DRIVER AIR BAG & PASS AIR BAG

BAF2 14B321 B MONITOR - AIRBAG DIAGNOSTIC MODULE, 4 DOOR SDN/WAGON, WITH FRONT SIDE AIR BAG RESTRAINT

When you look at the module, keep in mind that BA = 3R23, BAF2 = 5R29

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