Fordmods Logo

Climate control 

 

Page 3 of 4 [ 46 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

 
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:51 pm 
ACT Cruise Moderator
Offline
User avatar

Age: 36

Posts: 6275

Joined: 24th Nov 2004

Ride: '06 BF GT-P

Power: 293 rwkw

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

yeah, two days if everything goes smoothly. I'll have to go back in.

 

_________________

1998 DL LTD in Sparkling Burgundy, daily, 302W, stereo, slow - 97.5rwkw
2006 BF GT-P in Ego, mods. 293rwkw - 12.427@109 - 0-1000m 24.838@221

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:29 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1043

Joined: 7th Feb 2005

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

Quote:

Fair enough................I looked and decided with out trying. My HVAC box was rooted anyway so I swapped it out.

Did you change everything over with the airbox in situ? If so, I take my hat off to you........... I looked at the blend door motor and there was no way I was going to stuff around with that with the air box in the car, so out she came!!!

You are right tho the whole thing is worth it. It is not that hard, but it is definately time consuming!!!!


Yeah the Fairmont box was rooted with mine hence why I swapped the parts over instead. My XR6 one was in perfect condition.

Yeah I had to pull it out, there wasnt anyway I could see how to get the blend door motor installed in such a tight space.

Oh and also I went and bought a climate control temp sensor from Ford today, $123!! F*ck me! Talk about price gouging!

 

_________________

1993 ED XR6 5speed Polynesian Green. Project car.

1998 EL XR8 Auto Hot Chilli Red. New daily and project

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:52 am 
ACT Cruise Moderator
Offline
User avatar

Age: 36

Posts: 6275

Joined: 24th Nov 2004

Ride: '06 BF GT-P

Power: 293 rwkw

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

No wonder everyone calls them 'Fraud Spares'

 

_________________

1998 DL LTD in Sparkling Burgundy, daily, 302W, stereo, slow - 97.5rwkw
2006 BF GT-P in Ego, mods. 293rwkw - 12.427@109 - 0-1000m 24.838@221

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:35 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1008

Joined: 21st Dec 2004

Ride: ED V8

Location: driving under the sun........now!
WA, Australia

Sturmovik wrote:
Oh and also I went and bought a climate control temp sensor from Ford today, $123!! F*ck me! Talk about price gouging!


Which sensor is that? Ambient, cabin, sun load etc? It seems pretty steep for something which is essentially made up of nothing!

I assume you tried a wreckers first!

 

_________________

ED XR8 Spri-mitatio-nt

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:53 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1043

Joined: 7th Feb 2005

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

The sensor that goes in the themostat housing.

I broke the one in my Fairmont wreck :(

 

_________________

1993 ED XR6 5speed Polynesian Green. Project car.

1998 EL XR8 Auto Hot Chilli Red. New daily and project

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:42 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 44

Posts: 10126

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: EF Gli Ghia, XP Fairmont

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Sturmovik wrote:
The sensor that goes in the themostat housing.

I broke the one in my Fairmont wreck :(

i didn't know there was a sensor in the thermostat ???

 

_________________

Owning 1 of 67612 EF GLi Sedans made
FACT: "Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 World Series of Poker despite him holding just a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoly card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game Uno."

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:27 am 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 53

Posts: 5587

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

I've got the CC 'bug' now :shock:
Started collecting some bits from the wreckers on Friday off an NL Fairlane. Got all the bits off the airbox, plus all the looms for $20 :D .

Gave me an idea of the degree of difficulty . . .

Since I don't have the CC unit, or the Ambient air sensor, I suppose that's where most of the other $$$ will go . . . .

The donor car had the bumper and radiator gear already gone - can any one tell me where exactly the Ambient air sensor is, as the doco says inside the bumper, and my manual says on the radiator upper support ??

data_mine wrote:
Cool, I figured I'd have to do some cutting. Any idea what that connector (and the 'strings' behind it)does?
The standard resistor assy looks like coiled wires, and sits in the heaterbox for what I'd guess is cooling - since it has air passing through them, as they would get hot. The fan speed controller has a heatsink that does this instead, so it also sits in the heaterbox airstream.

data_mine wrote:
Some good photos - whats with the EF Green BEM - is it an incidental pickup - I don't recollect it being needed for a CC upgrade.

Happy wrote:
i didn't know there was a sensor in the thermostat ???
I think he's referring to the coolant temp sensor - the CC gathers coolant temp from the ECU.

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:07 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1043

Joined: 7th Feb 2005

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

Im not sure with EF/ELs, but EA-ED ran a coolant temp sensor in the thermostat housing specifically for the climate control. It replaces the hex headed bolt thats in the lesser models.

 

_________________

1993 ED XR6 5speed Polynesian Green. Project car.

1998 EL XR8 Auto Hot Chilli Red. New daily and project

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:11 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1043

Joined: 7th Feb 2005

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

snap0964 wrote:


The donor car had the bumper and radiator gear already gone - can any one tell me where exactly the Ambient air sensor is, as the doco says inside the bumper, and my manual says on the radiator upper support ??



On EA-ED its part of the loom that goes to the horn.
If EF-EL is the same, the lesser models will have an empty plug near that area, and obviously the upper models will have a sensor attached to it.

 

_________________

1993 ED XR6 5speed Polynesian Green. Project car.

1998 EL XR8 Auto Hot Chilli Red. New daily and project

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:07 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 44

Posts: 10126

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: EF Gli Ghia, XP Fairmont

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Sturmovik wrote:
snap0964 wrote:


The donor car had the bumper and radiator gear already gone - can any one tell me where exactly the Ambient air sensor is, as the doco says inside the bumper, and my manual says on the radiator upper support ??



On EA-ED its part of the loom that goes to the horn.
If EF-EL is the same, the lesser models will have an empty plug near that area, and obviously the upper models will have a sensor attached to it.

not quite empty ... the high series engine loom has two extra wires going into the same plug which attaches to the horn plug. Those two go to the ambient sensor in the bumper - same plug just two more wires.

The Ambient Temp sensor - if you have a look at the top of your air intake in teh front bumper just where the mesh does a "v" in the center - you should see a couple of holes, that's where it goes.

 

_________________

Owning 1 of 67612 EF GLi Sedans made
FACT: "Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 World Series of Poker despite him holding just a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoly card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game Uno."

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 53

Posts: 5587

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

Sturmovik wrote:
Im not sure with EF/ELs, but EA-ED ran a coolant temp sensor in the thermostat housing specifically for the climate control. It replaces the hex headed bolt thats in the lesser models.
EF/EL's just have the hex plug, and as mentioned get coolant temp from the ECU.

Thanks Guys also for the Ambient Temp sensor info . . . :D

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:55 pm 
ACT Cruise Moderator
Offline
User avatar

Age: 36

Posts: 6275

Joined: 24th Nov 2004

Ride: '06 BF GT-P

Power: 293 rwkw

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

snap0964 wrote:
data_mine wrote:
Some good photos - whats with the EF Green BEM - is it an incidental pickup - I don't recollect it being needed for a CC upgrade.


I'm pretty sure it's an EL green BEM, it came as a freebie with all the other parts. And yeah I don't beleive it's needed for the upgrade.

 

_________________

1998 DL LTD in Sparkling Burgundy, daily, 302W, stereo, slow - 97.5rwkw
2006 BF GT-P in Ego, mods. 293rwkw - 12.427@109 - 0-1000m 24.838@221

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:02 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 53

Posts: 5587

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

Happy wrote:
not quite empty ... the high series engine loom has two extra wires going into the same plug which attaches to the horn plug. Those two go to the ambient sensor in the bumper - same plug just two more wires.
I've found my wagon has the two wires up to the horn plug - I'm guessing those two wires will go back through the firewall and end at the next connector, perhaps the white one behind the fusebox - just a case of finding them . . :o
My ute has the same, but the sensor plug is there (WTF ??) :shock:
So just a case of removing the terminals from the horn plug, and hooking it up in the wagon . . . :D

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:14 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 53

Posts: 5587

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

data_mine wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's an EL green BEM, it came as a freebie with all the other parts. And yeah I don't beleive it's needed for the upgrade.
Unfortunately, I'll think you'll find it's an EF. This is the BEM out of that NL Fairlane I was scrounging, the EL High series should be the same - my wagon's one is the same shape, but Blue.

 

 

Attachments:
EL_BEM.jpg
EL_BEM.jpg [ 168.57 KiB | Viewed 67 times ]

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:35 pm 
ACT Cruise Moderator
Offline
User avatar

Age: 36

Posts: 6275

Joined: 24th Nov 2004

Ride: '06 BF GT-P

Power: 293 rwkw

Location: Canberra
ACT, Australia

I was told it was out of an EL Fairmont Ghia. But I guess it makes sense as the CC unit has black buttons (EF).

 

_________________

1998 DL LTD in Sparkling Burgundy, daily, 302W, stereo, slow - 97.5rwkw
2006 BF GT-P in Ego, mods. 293rwkw - 12.427@109 - 0-1000m 24.838@221

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 3 of 4  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:20 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names