Fordmods Logo

EL PAB dash Conversion Questions 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 8 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: EL PAB dash Conversion Questions
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:45 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 324

Joined: 19th Mar 2007

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL XR6

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

Ok, with the help of OZBMX (cheers Joel) ive got myself a EL dual airbag dash skin and airbag. Im looking at starting to change it all over soon but Ive been doing a bit of observation and I have some questions.

I only have the dual air bag dash skin (top half) not the light gret bottom half. How does the airbag mount to the dash? I see 3 M6 holes in the air bag itself but i cant see what it bolts onto.

I can see a huge black bar up inside the dash where the PAB should go. Does this come out or does the PAB go around it?

Ive read that the air vent piping is different to single airbag dashes. Anyone Confirm?


I understand the whole bolting my existing bottom peice to the new skin and the dash removal procedure.

Any other hints or tips would be appreciated. Looking at maybe getting a tech doco together for the PAB conversion.

Cheers,
Woody.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:08 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 44

Posts: 4093

Joined: 20th Mar 2005

Gallery: 2 images

Ride: 2.0 Turbo VW

Power: 142 rwkw

Location: Seaford State:
VIC, Australia

IIRC the black bar doesn't come out.
Yes the Airpipe is different, It travels around the PAB.

EF2 has the PAB wiring already with a blanking resistor.

EL, I think, has the resistor near the airbag ecu.

So you'll have to route twisted pair over to the passenger side.

It would be easier to acquire a complete dash from another car.

 

_________________

Carefree, we may not be number one, but we're up there.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:43 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 324

Joined: 19th Mar 2007

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL XR6

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

PAB wiring in El is on the left hand side inside where the glovebox is so wiring it up is no hassle. how different is the air vent piping??
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:48 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 44

Posts: 4093

Joined: 20th Mar 2005

Gallery: 2 images

Ride: 2.0 Turbo VW

Power: 142 rwkw

Location: Seaford State:
VIC, Australia

mr_ratapus wrote:
PAB wiring in El is on the left hand side inside where the glovebox is so wiring it up is no hassle. how different is the air vent piping??


Ahh great so same with EF2, EF1 didn't have this option.

Plumbing is quite different, its molded about 10-15cm more towards the windscreen.

Nothing a bit of ingenuity wouldn't fix.

 

_________________

Carefree, we may not be number one, but we're up there.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:55 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 324

Joined: 19th Mar 2007

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL XR6

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

Krytox wrote:
mr_ratapus wrote:
PAB wiring in El is on the left hand side inside where the glovebox is so wiring it up is no hassle. how different is the air vent piping??


Ahh great so same with EF2, EF1 didn't have this option.

Plumbing is quite different, its molded about 10-15cm more towards the windscreen.

Nothing a bit of ingenuity wouldn't fix.


sweet! Im sure i can whack something up.

Now to figure out how the airbag attaches to the dash itself and im in business. Ive got a feeling from looking it bolts the the lower half of the dash but i could be way wrong. anyone who has the PAB from factory can you take a pic of under your glove box??
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:35 pm 
Technical Contributor
Offline
User avatar

Age: 59

Posts: 5659

Joined: 14th Jan 2005

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: 96 XH/97 EL

Location: South Coast
NSW, Australia

I've fitted a PAB to a non PAB dash, the PAB dash I got for nothing - only thing it was Fubar.
As Andrew said the duct piece that goes around the back of it has a recess - you can hit a std one with a hot air gun and remold it to suit.
The PAB sits on a metal tray which has a metal plate which attaches to the metal crashtube - this only goes as far as the centre air vents in the PAB dashes - I cut my tube and welded the tray to it.
The EL's have a sticker in the fusebox ID'ing PAB or non PAB dashes.
Image
The two strips in this picture are there to cover the identations from where the dash spear used to be - obviously a PAB dash doesn't have them.
Also the glovebox lid has the badge on the top left - the factory lids have a flat, but you can glue the badge.

 

_________________

96 XH Longreach 'S': LPG, Alarm, 3.23:1 LSD, Cruise, Trip Comp, ABS, Power Windows, Mid Series Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl
97 EL Futura S/W: LPG, Alarm, LED int Lts, Trip Comp, F/Lane Dome Lt, Climate Ctrl, T5 Conversion

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:58 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 324

Joined: 19th Mar 2007

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL XR6

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

ok so i guess im missing some nessacary bits then. I got the PAB glovebox skin too. Can this metal plate be made or is it less hassles to get one froma wreckers?

The dash i got was really sunburnt and had started to turn white. A good cope of days were needed to get the moisture back into it. Looks tops now.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:09 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 38

Posts: 324

Joined: 19th Mar 2007

Gallery: 11 images

Ride: EL XR6

Location: Gold Coast
QLD, Australia

Ok, Can anyone give me a list of what i need or dont have that ill require. I would just pull it all out and go from there but i need my car on a daily basis so I cant really drive the thing with no dash (or can i)

I have:
- PAB
- PAB Dash Skin (top half only)
- PAB Glovebox Skin.

Cheers,
Woody.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 8 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:13 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names