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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:23 pm 
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On an EF Fairmont, they wind down, but not back up again... The car was $4400 with working windows and RWC, but since then the windows shat themselves...the guy got a quote about the windows for $700... And now will sell me the car for $3500 without RWC and 2 non working power windows...

My question is, is it a DIY job, with no experience with power windows before? (keen to learn/follow steps though) and How much would it cost to fix?

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:30 pm 
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It's pretty easy to fix, though if you want genuine new parts to replace the broken bits, be prepared to pay the dollers.

If it's due to the electric motors then you would have to pay a lot more money to get it fixed. To do it yourself you have to pull the rear door trims off. Then undo some bolts that hold the glass to the metal holder that moves up and down (forget the technical term for that thing). Then drill the pivots out (if they have never been removed) and remove the motor and replace with a new one and then using nuts and bolts to put the electric winder back in rather then pivots. Not a hard task...but a bit tedious at first.

If it's just the switches, then I guess that is a much easier fix. Just need to remove the door trims, remove the switches and then replace with new ones.

Have you asked what may have caused the electric windows not to work?

If I didn't have any idea about the car, I'd get a RWC for it for a bit of piece of mind.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:44 pm 
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Hmmm, well the plan was to get an RACV test done... And if that all went well, I would be willing to purchase without RWC, fix the windows then get the RWC myself.


If I were to pay someone to do it + parts, how much would I be looking at? $700 seemed a bit much to me...

Also, how can I know if it needs a new motor... From what I've read on here, it seems likes it needs a new regulator, but I might be way off...
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:01 pm 
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Sorry didn't read your first post right and missed the part where the window goes down but not up :oops:. Well at least now you know the regulator motor is still functioning.

Well I am unsure of the price of someone else doing it...but $700 for both doors might sound on target. The regulators are pretty expensive new from Ford, so I would think it's about the right price...though don't quote me on that.

If it goes down and not back up. I would think it might be just the switches or even a loose wire. The way I would test it is by first pulling the door trim off and check for any loose wiring that may have come undone. After finding no loose wires I'd remove the switch and then using a spare wire, short the earth with one of the active wires through the wiring loom. If the windows go up well then the switches would be at fault.

Word of warning, this is my unorthodox way of working it out. I don't think it's very safe at all but it has worked for me before. So do it at your own risk.

You could always try and borrow someone else's switch that you know works and plug it in and test it.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:06 pm 
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its a fairly easy job to replace the winders if u know what u are doing

new parts will be expensive

hardest part is removing the winders as they are riveted in

i could change both in about 1 hour

p.s if your interested ive got some good working secondhand winders, PM if interested

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:09 am 
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Is there a technical document for this?? I can't seem to find one...
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:06 pm 
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http://www.fordmods.com/forums/power-wi ... 15088.html

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/replacem ... 14323.html

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:41 pm 
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Happy wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/power-window-maintenance-t15088.html

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/replacem ... 14323.html


Thanks, but I had seen those... But neither really say how to replace a regulator assembly... Unless it's that obvious and it doesn't need instruction..
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:32 pm 
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My passenger window winds down but not back up too, if i keep clicking the switch long enough it will go up. It could be dirty contacts on the switch maybe try giving them a clean.
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If it is the regulators then I would jump at the $700 for the guy to replace and install them. I sponke to for the other day and was told that it would cost $330 for 1 electric window regulator and then I would have to install them my self, so the extra $40 for a professional to inatall them would be a bargin
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:59 am 
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timmay_73 wrote:
Happy wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/power-window-maintenance-t15088.html

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/replacem ... 14323.html


Thanks, but I had seen those... But neither really say how to replace a regulator assembly... Unless it's that obvious and it doesn't need instruction..


they come with instructions....

 

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Happy wrote:
timmay_73 wrote:
Happy wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/power-window-maintenance-t15088.html

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/replacem ... 14323.html


Thanks, but I had seen those... But neither really say how to replace a regulator assembly... Unless it's that obvious and it doesn't need instruction..


they come with instructions....


Awesome... Might have to look into this then.

Does anyone know of anyone in Eastern suburbs of Vic that sells regulator/motor kits??
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:20 am 
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The same thing happened on my Ghia tonight- driver's window went down but not back up.

Pull out the switch panel and unplug in the console (2 screws: 30 seconds) and carefully disassemble the unit to get to the switches that are giving trouble. You'll see inside two little metal contacts that will be black from electrical arcing. Clean them and the contacts up carefully with fine emery paper and a solvent and put back together. Time all up: one hour at most. Money saved: $700!

Be careful as there are two contacts, two little springs and two black parts inside each switch, so be careful not to lose them when taking apart.

Anyone who can use a screwdriver can do this job. HTH.

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:05 pm 
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700 is cheap! The regulators / motors are dear as poision! There are after market reg / motor avaliable! I have used one in my drivers door before and i have had no drama's! and it was quarter the price of a new one genuine!
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:47 pm 
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But his windows are going down, so the regulators are OK. Clean out the switches for an hour of your time: FREE! :)

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