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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:54 pm 
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maybe running out of revs instead?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:12 pm 
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Thats what i cant understand. why would you want to remove the limiter?
oh well its his death bed. just hoping it wont be someone elses as well.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:32 am 
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yes BUT your 1/4 mile time slip also shows the SPEED alongside the time of your run across the finish line. So if your main aim is to impress people with that piece of paper........you won't. Because they'll see you've just got gear ratio changes....and not real power.......due to the fact u will have a low time......but also a LOW SPEED.


Man what speed do u think most cars crack a low 10sec pass at the track??
Approx 125- 128mp/r =204km/phr using diff gears and tyre sizing and gear changes to get an extra 10tenth of a second.

So u would rather a car with 500 horsepower and say 2.75 gears (stock) and u reckon people will say " thats fast " or "nugget" cause u cant get to the finnish line under high 13's :lol: :lol:
If u have 600 horspower and stock gears how fast down the 1/4 would u go. Do u even know what torque means? Power dont mean s**t without torque and stock gear ratios will only get u to Border faster cause thats the only road u can "see how fast ur goin"

It costs lots of money to go 1 sec faster, so if ur in the high 13's how FAST do u think ur going?? And whats the first thing u will change- Diff Gears.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:36 am 
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i wonder if he is dead yet

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:56 am 
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:38 am 
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Honestly, all the haters here bashing the guy = not good. He'll just think you're all d**k and try it anyway. How about providing the truth.

1. E series falcons were never made to go that fast (EL GT excluded).

2. I had an EL with a lot of work done (over 150RWKW), I was running out of revs. I started playing with the ECU, I upped the rev limiter and removed the speed limiter, as the 180 limit came in before the end of 3rd on a dyno = hard to tune.

3. On a dyno (don't do that kinda s**t on the roads), the gearbox/tailshaft/airbags/exhaust all failed at ONLY 192KM/H - proof it wasn't made for high speeds.

4. Cost over $1500 to fix it back up, and that was with me/friends doing the labour. The engine then died only two weeks after getting it back on the road (related or not I don't know) another $1500.

5. Bought myself a GT-P, it's made to go fast, and I have my fun on drag strips and race circuits.

6. Learn from my failure. I'm lucky I wasn't stupid and tried beating 180 on the road, I'd probably be dead.

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Close thread move on.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:41 pm 
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im interested to know how the airbags were caused to give way at a high speed :s not like they were under any mechanical stress

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:50 pm 
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im interested to know how the airbags were caused to give way at a high speed :s not like they were under any mechanical stress


You think that mechanical failure was smooth/quiet?

The impact would have ruptured the sensor on the firewall among other things, static, shock.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:54 pm 
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I can help you remove the speed limiter if need be. PM me for info.

Most people argue about the need to exceed 180km/h. That is part of the argument anyway. The real argument relates to tailshaft RPM, and diff gears.
Not the actual speed as such.

In regards to / driveline failures, its all to do with the driveline setup. If you need to go over "180km/h" then install a thicker wall tailshaft. That is the weak link of the e-series, to do with the tailshaft length, thickness, and the MAXIMUM SAFE RPM of the tailshaft. it really is only a ratio to the "km/h"

A lot of cars with the same length tailshafts as E-series can spin over 7000rpm without tailshaft failure, but that is with a 3 or 3.5" dia, thick wall tailshaft, made to withstand that amount of RPM.
Its got nothing to do with max speed.

Also its advisable to install tailshaft loops.
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:38 pm 
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ATKINS wrote:
Any of you Ford lovers answer this question ?????
180 just doesn't cut it......


IDIOT.

Its f**k like you why all younger people just getting their licence are stuck driving echo's for 3 or 4 years, because you all want to be "Fully sik" and drives like idiots on the road and kill yourselves and your friends etc.

Take it to the track you nob.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:27 pm 
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Krytox wrote:
wild_ef wrote:
im interested to know how the airbags were caused to give way at a high speed :s not like they were under any mechanical stress


You think that mechanical failure was smooth/quiet?

The impact would have ruptured the sensor on the firewall among other things, static, shock.


There was no impact, it was all done on a dyno.

Think about it, the car thinks it's going 192km/h then all hell breaks loose (gearbox falls apart, tail shaft starts bashing the under body etc.), of course it's going to deploy the bags.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:35 pm 
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Thats, odd, isn't it?
Airbags are only supposed to deploy if 2 of the 3 sensors (one near the gril and others on the sides of the engine bay) are crushed.
The idea being, not to hurt people in low speed crashes, when their head/body is not declerating as fast as the airbags 'accelerate' out of the dash/wheel.
So how does the 'shaking' of the car cause that?
(I'm curious in case it leads to bigger problems etc)

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:51 pm 
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There's the front crash sensor, one under the dash, and a third 'safing' sensor in the SRS module.

There was obviously enough shaking, combined with the fact the SRS module thought the car was doing 192 that it decided to deploy. There was no fault codes prior, and once the car 'rebuilt' (with new air bags) no fault codes after either.

Had the same shaking occurred at regular speeds, nothing probably would've happened.

Keep in mind however when the tail shaft broke in half, the half attached to the gearbox and the half still attached to the diff (wheels still spinning) were flopping around at 5500 RPM until the gearbox failed, and the hand brake was yanked on (to stop the rear wheels). That's A LOT of violent energy being beat into the car.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:09 pm 
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data_mine wrote:
There was obviously enough shaking, combined with the fact the SRS module thought the car was doing 192 that it decided to deploy.
The SRS module has no idea what speed the car is doing. An impact force equivalant to 25km or over will cause it to fire - this force is fore/aft. There must've been an equivalent jolt to fire the airbags.
Again, it'd be pretty hard to diagnose exactly what caused it.

 

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Yes it does, because it's disabled at under 40km/h

 

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