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 Post subject: wiring loom for eb to el conversion
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:59 pm 
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today i cruised down to the wreckers to retreive the most dredded part of my eb to el engine and interior conversion... the wiring loom...

3 hours later i got busted up hands and the loom... woop woop!!

but now my question is out to those who may have previously done this conversion this way,

-how much will actually click together?
-how much will i have to cut n shut?
-are the wire color codes the same??
-will i prefer to eat a pine cone than to do this mod??
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:13 pm 
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ringastinga wrote:
-will i prefer to eat a pine cone than to do this mod??


LOL, cracked me up...

Anyway, are you just converting the required engine swap wiring?
Or are you doing dash/cluster aswell?

 

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:23 pm 
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In my opinion the easiest way is to swap everything from a late model donor.
I went with the option of getting it working with the EB harness simply because I bought it as an unfinished project with the engine already in the car but without it running, simply swap over the ISC and TPS connectors (lengthen the TPS wire) and it should be good to thread through.

I think there was another connector you have to lengthen the wiring for too, I'll have to check my old thread. But anyway, I made up a seperate harness for the BBM and knock sensor and threaded that through to the cabin with the heater vacuum hoses.

EDIT: I think it was the air intake temp sensor connector

 

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:26 pm 
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knowsfords wrote:
In my opinion the easiest way is to swap everything from a late model donor.


That what i did, entire ef loom, and it made it real easy. However, i wanted all the Fairmont fruit aswell. If you only wanted the engine swap, it'd be heaps quicker to do it your way. BENJ also did it the way of making his loom work with the new engine, and added BBM switching/wiring etc.

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:07 pm 
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im doing dash and cluster also
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:17 pm 
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ringastinga wrote:
im doing dash and cluster also


Yep complete harness (as in the whole thing) would be your best bet :)
Then all you'd have to do is wire up the headlights/taillights. Should probably read PIMP_LTD's build thread for particulars like the EF/EB hybrid combination switch

 

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:27 pm 
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yeah read into that my biggest problem atm is the heater/ ac unit none of the wires add up may have to change... other problem is i think the dash i have is ef concorde so some of the plugs arent 100% the same may have to study this s**t
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:01 pm 
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Yeah i'd go a complete loom then, as knowsfords said, thats what i did, and it was easy. It just takes a little more time.

Headlights and front indicators are same wiring, all plugs in. It just fits a little tight around the front. But it still fits. Taillights i made a convertor loom.

If the wiring on the heater box is different, just get the parts of an ef one, or get a whole ef one and fit it. :)

If you need more detail on the loom swap, feel free to pm me.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:15 pm 
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This isn't as easy as plug n play. You at least have it easy as yours is a 6cyl. Mine was a bit harder being a V8. Some of the wires may be the same but you seriously wouldn't do this mod without a wiring diagram and multimeter. Perhaps, you should go and eat that pine cone. Otherwise, here are some photos to either scare you or get you going again.

EF 6cyl dash loom and engine bay loom laid on floor and every wire identified so that it can be grafted onto a EF V8 engine harness and EL V8 ECU:

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Dash, console, EF cruise module, steering wheel and half the column etc in a box. All up $80.

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Re-arranged engine bay loom with EF fusible link box and other relays etc:

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Bye bye ED Fairmont dash. Have a look under the drivers side near the pedal box. EF loom routed through the firewall and the dash loom laying over the tranny hump ready to be wired up the the EL V8 ECU.

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You would think that I'm nearly there. Far from it!

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Here it is, finished:

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:40 pm 
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Yours was a little more comprehensive though, as you matched a few looms together didn't you?

Its piss easy with a donor car, or atleast pull all the gear outta one or same car. Mine pretty much was plug and play, Except for the taillights.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:39 pm 
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so far i dont think im gonna eat that pine cone im finding it quite easy considering...

the difference is i have a wagon so had to buy my interior out of a wagon but wanted better seats so i paid $850 to ftg auto salvage who gave me a concorde interior with a f**k dash never been screwed over by any1 so bad before...

while im at it how hard to add climate control to a car that never had it in the first place?

i have high series bem
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 pm 
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Not hard to fit Climate, i did this with the rest of the conv. Was easy.

All you need to do is fit the CC heater/ac unit in place of the non CC one. As long as you have high bem, all the needed loom, and some initiative, its piss easy.

What model did you get your loom out of, and exactly how much of the loom did you get?

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:10 pm 
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dash loom is fairlane (high series)

engine loom (3 part) is el futura wagon
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:29 pm 
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Oh cool. So all you need is a climate control heater/ac unit out of fairlane/fairmont. All the heater/ac lines in the engine bay connect as normal.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:12 pm 
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in tech docs says i dont need the heater ac unit just need to add door blend motor ect
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