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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:22 pm 
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what has to be done to run the electronic 4sp auto tranny if you remove all of the efi and computer stuff from a 5L to run straight gas set up??
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:47 pm 
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from my understanding, the TPS has to remain for the auto. now the tranny ECU has a few wires runnin to it from the normal ECU. someone HAS mentioned maybe using a "MegaSquirt" (i love that name) anyway, using a megasquirt for the tranny ECU, you should be able to remove everything from injectors to feul tank and everything in between.
i'm looking to do the same thing but this is the only info i got.
correct me if i'm wrong guys or if anyone has any further information, that's be kool.

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:53 pm 
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so what is a megasquirt and what does it do?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:41 am 
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i am interested to find out what the wires from ecu to tranny ecu are , what sort of signals they require. are there any people with quickish gas windsors?
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:39 pm 
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i'm with you also jasonk, i would like to discard the whole efi system, run straight gas and still use the 4 sp auto...... how can we do it??
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:36 pm 
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I'm looking at buying a DC LTD 5.0L with duel fuel. When I took it for a drive it would'nt let me use the gears, it was like it was in drive for 1-2-3 & D.
So is on straight gas/duel fuel setup that the auto wont work with gear selection?
And can it ever be fixed so gears can be used again?
Until I saw this post I thought the box might have been screwed & was thinking of swapping the box out my current 5.0L for it.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:54 pm 
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do a search .........
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:00 pm 
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i did some searches but gave up as i couldnt find anything relevant.looked at your link the tps is only part of what is required i cant remember the others but i believe about three wires return to the engine ecu, one of which is the speedo sender the other 2 unknown?

i have wired a standard ecu and trans control into a xg recently but didnt really have to test to much lots of the wiring was just left in tact. if i could work out what signals are required then you could use trans control ecu with aftermarket ecu. that is what i am aiming for then you can have full spark control trans control and run straight lpg and remove all fuel related gear.

i am interested to see how your project goes may do somthing similar soon
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:20 pm 
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There are 2 TPS, one for engine and the other for the transmission controller. From memory, there is only one wire that goes from the TCM to the engine's ECU. Most of wires for the auto are for each solenoid, the inhibitor switch and temp sensor. The only thing required for a straight gas set up is the auto's TPS.

 

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:50 pm 
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the 4 sp will run with straight gas / carbied windsor / cleveland conversions.

The TCM requires inputs from the gear position switch, TPS and RPM, providing these are all connected, it will work.

Alternatively we're working on a stand alone controller for the BTR 4sp which will initially will provide a full manual setup, further revisions will have fully programmable automatic control.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:31 pm 
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thanks guys, i'm still trying everything to get this thing to run on fuel first but i'm going to go to gas i've decided, put a big weekend in on it but now have to fab up new trans mounts to suit the xf
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:37 pm 
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I've just purchased a NC Fairlane for its gearbox and 5L. I have an XP which I am going to run it in. I am on striaght LPG now and will be running the Windsor on straight LPG. I was going to stick with the EFI set up but my LPG mechanic and other mechanic friends have said that a carby set up would be better. So I have stripped the EFI gear and am now looking at replacing all that with a carby set up.

I will be happy to keep you up to date with my progress and any info I find in relation to the gearbox problems. Sorry I'm a late comer to your original thread but if you've all ready started let me know how your going.

I now need to find a good manifold / carby set up for the gas.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:13 pm 
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Have you guys made any progress RIDDO and XP Choppy?

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:17 pm 
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lol im waiting on getting a dizzy to finish mine off ! :)

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:03 pm 
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Did you end up going for a HEI dizzy MRE?

 

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