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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:09 pm 
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I am just wondering, society seems to be getting more and more violent. Obviously there are many reasons for this, and even advances in media communications might just make it seem like things are getting more violent.
The old days of "You and me outside!", a few punches thrown, the matter considered sorted out... Has been apparently replaced by glassing somebody's face, king hitting them in the back of the head, and stomping on peoples head while they are unconcious.
My question is do these current disciplines of choockpen fighting like UFC etc., where pretty well anything goes, encourage an unreasonable level of savagery? Boxing also has the primary objective of beating your opponent to a bloody pulp, but has some rules and guidelines of fair play.
What happens wher we get bored with the choockpen format? are they going to allow clubs and knives or something?
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:37 pm 
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BubbyGetPizzaForCat wrote:
I am just wondering, society seems to be getting more and more violent. Obviously there are many reasons for this, and even advances in media communications might just make it seem like things are getting more violent.
The old days of "You and me outside!", a few punches thrown, the matter considered sorted out... Has been apparently replaced by glassing somebody's face, king hitting them in the back of the head, and stomping on peoples head while they are unconcious.
My question is do these current disciplines of choockpen fighting like UFC etc., where pretty well anything goes, encourage an unreasonable level of savagery? Boxing also has the primary objective of beating your opponent to a bloody pulp, but has some rules and guidelines of fair play.
What happens wher we get bored with the choockpen format? are they going to allow clubs and knives or something?


Ithink the whole ufc is retarded, bunch of blokers fighting for no reason, boxing and kicking box are old as father time almost, a sence of respect for the boxers etc (not idiots like mundine etc)

the ufc format is just dumb, who gets rocks of this? any one seen damage same idea but more underground.
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:45 pm 
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i am a ufc fanatic, it is a sport, just like boxing, football etc..
nothing wrong with it, infact its the quickst growing sport in the world,
why is it any worse then boxing, kick boxing or wrestling???
there is more technique involved in ufc then there is in any other martial art..

anyways apart from that.. i agree with the bashing's, its all you see on the news these says, its weak, cowardly and immorally wrong..

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:07 pm 
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BubbyGetPizzaForCat wrote:
I am just wondering, society seems to be getting more and more violent. Obviously there are many reasons for this, and even advances in media communications might just make it seem like things are getting more violent.
The old days of "You and me outside!", a few punches thrown, the matter considered sorted out... Has been apparently replaced by glassing somebody's face, king hitting them in the back of the head, and stomping on peoples head while they are unconcious.
My question is do these current disciplines of choockpen fighting like UFC etc., where pretty well anything goes, encourage an unreasonable level of savagery? Boxing also has the primary objective of beating your opponent to a bloody pulp, but has some rules and guidelines of fair play.
What happens wher we get bored with the choockpen format? are they going to allow clubs and knives or something?


You me carpark now! in the words of blokesworld.
I wholeheartedly agree with the "lets punch on and see who comes out on top"
Unfortunately the law doesnt see it my way :(
The ufc does have a high level of skill but i hate the cuddling and hugging part, stand up and punch and kick the s**t out of each other :twisted:
Muai thai is the most brutal sport in the world and also the best to watch :D
Not that i like fighting 8-)
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:11 pm 
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Froudey wrote:
BubbyGetPizzaForCat wrote:
I am just wondering, society seems to be getting more and more violent. Obviously there are many reasons for this, and even advances in media communications might just make it seem like things are getting more violent.
The old days of "You and me outside!", a few punches thrown, the matter considered sorted out... Has been apparently replaced by glassing somebody's face, king hitting them in the back of the head, and stomping on peoples head while they are unconcious.
My question is do these current disciplines of choockpen fighting like UFC etc., where pretty well anything goes, encourage an unreasonable level of savagery? Boxing also has the primary objective of beating your opponent to a bloody pulp, but has some rules and guidelines of fair play.
What happens wher we get bored with the choockpen format? are they going to allow clubs and knives or something?


Ithink the whole ufc is retarded, bunch of blokers fighting for no reason, boxing and kicking box are old as father time almost, a sence of respect for the boxers etc (not idiots like mundine etc)

the ufc format is just dumb, who gets rocks of this? any one seen damage same idea but more underground.


You do know that ufc fighters get paid hundreds of thousands to fight right, there is a good reason to fight.
Its their job and it supports their families, might not be everyones cup of tea but they love it :D
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:48 pm 
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You me carpark now! in the words of blokesworld.
I wholeheartedly agree with the "lets punch on and see who comes out on top"
Unfortunately the law doesnt see it my way :(
The ufc does have a high level of skill but i hate the cuddling and hugging part, stand up and punch and kick the s**t out of each other :twisted:
Muai thai is the most brutal sport in the world and also the best to watch :D
Not that i like fighting 8-)



muai thai is awsome to watch, especialy when its proper thai rules when they can use their elbows and headbuts as well. Here in australia we hapen to have two of the best MT fighters of recent times, John Wayne Parr and Paul Briggs have been multiple world championship winners and John is the only non thai to ever be invited to fight at the kings birthday celebrations. on another note both of these guys have now converted to conventional boxing, John had a fight against mundine and lost on a points decision after punching the crap out of mundine(apparently you dont lose points for running away) and mundine wont give him a rematch. Paul has been trying to get a fight with Roy Jones Jnr but Jones has said no way in the world will I get in the ring with him.

off topic I know but just thought it might be interesting.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:03 pm 
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milo 302 wrote:

You me carpark now! in the words of blokesworld.
I wholeheartedly agree with the "lets punch on and see who comes out on top"
Unfortunately the law doesnt see it my way :(
The ufc does have a high level of skill but i hate the cuddling and hugging part, stand up and punch and kick the s**t out of each other :twisted:
Muai thai is the most brutal sport in the world and also the best to watch :D
Not that i like fighting 8-)



muai thai is awsome to watch, especialy when its proper thai rules when they can use their elbows and headbuts as well. Here in australia we hapen to have two of the best MT fighters of recent times, John Wayne Parr and Paul Briggs have been multiple world championship winners and John is the only non thai to ever be invited to fight at the kings birthday celebrations. on another note both of these guys have now converted to conventional boxing, John had a fight against mundine and lost on a points decision after punching the crap out of mundine(apparently you dont lose points for running away) and mundine wont give him a rematch. Paul has been trying to get a fight with Roy Jones Jnr but Jones has said no way in the world will I get in the ring with him.

off topic I know but just thought it might be interesting.



Just between me and you i reckon wayne parr is an absolute legend, didnt know about j.w and mundine.
Wayne parr doesnt box anymore he got sick of the b.s decisions, just muai thai.
Always glad to hear about the gunslinger :D and anyone out of the boonchu gym
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:20 pm 
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a ufc fighter will kick the s**t out john wayne parr and paul briggs.... AND CHUCK Norris all in 1 setting

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:28 pm 
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a ufc fighter will kick the s**t out john wayne parr and paul briggs.... AND CHUCK Norris all in 1 setting



Have you ever seen real muai thai? ufc guy would possibly have a chance in a ufc environment but otherwise I dont think so. for training MT fighters get flogged with all manner of nasty s**t so their hard as nails. my money would be on briggs and parr in any setting, and as for norris he's and old man now but he'd still flog 99% of us I'd say :D

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:34 pm 
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Not Chuck Norris.. never lol. A lot of UFC fighters are over rated (Gracie is one of them), many are talent-less and think they are top sh*t. A funny thing is that Dana from the UFC can't even sign the greatest MMA fighter in the world to their "ultimate" fighting championship (just in case you don't know who I speak of it is Fedor Emelianenko), And one final thing J.W.P is a bloody legend. You can't compare different fighters from different martial arts, chalk and cheese. Parr in his own right is a legend just as Couture and Kostya Tszyu are in theirs.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:41 pm 
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i do gracie jui-jitsu and have been for many years, i can tell you that the gracies are not over rated. they are stupid dum and arrogant.. they are good in there own sport and thats it..

most fighters these days are very very well rounded, most have black belt jui-jitsu, pro wrestling championships behind them and are rated very high in muai thai, karate etc..

i have no doubt that going toe to toe they will come out on top of any one sided martial art..


as for ufc being to stupid to sign the worlds best fighter, its not because ufc doesn't want to or fedor doesn't want to, its because fedor owns a large share of strike force, if he fights for another organization then what does that say about his??

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:55 pm 
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4dlvr wrote:
a ufc fighter will kick the s**t out john wayne parr and paul briggs.... AND CHUCK Norris all in 1 setting

Yeah nice one bruv, ufc is all hugs and love cuddles.
The only time i chose to touch another bloke is on the end of my fist :twisted:
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:58 pm 
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Watching royce gracie or whatever his name is was boring, he has no stand up and just tries to go to ground and submit them.
best fights in ufc history havent ended on the ground, everyone loves standup :D
This could go on forever...
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:03 pm 
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milo 302 wrote:
Watching royce gracie or whatever his name is was boring, he has no stand up and just tries to go to ground and submit them.
best fights in ufc history havent ended on the ground, everyone loves standup :D
This could go on forever...



he stick to one style of fighting, the style that his family invented, bjj(Brazilian jui jujitsu)
Infact it was the gracie family that began ufc, it was ment to be a style vs style organization (bjj vs boxing, muai thai vs karate, you get the vibe)..

it has since advanced to a fighter vs fighter thing since everyone does everything these days

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:40 pm 
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I do rather the Maui Tie thingy over UFC..... more movement less hugging as it was said and more sport like.
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