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 Post subject: Ba Turbo 4" dump pipe and 3.5" system Xforce good
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:49 pm 
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Im looking at purchasing a xforce system and wanted to know if it was worth it or what sort of system other people have put on their Ba turbs and results people results if any?
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:13 pm 
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I had a standard system with just the centre muffler cut out, injectors and a custom tune and got 270rwkw but the guy said i could have got prob 290rwkw if my boost actuator was working 100%

My 2 cents thought u might like to know

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ba Turbo 4" dump pipe and 3.5" system Xforce g
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:05 pm 
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Im looking at purchasing a xforce system and wanted to know if it was worth it or what sort of system other people have put on their Ba turbs and results people results if any?

If you put this on your car your going to need to get the wastegate ported and a re-tune at the same time.. othere wise your car will overboost

What mods you planning on doing to the car??

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ba Turbo 4" dump pipe and 3.5" system Xforce g
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:50 pm 
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Mr.Kiss wrote:
dansmkII wrote:
Im looking at purchasing a xforce system and wanted to know if it was worth it or what sort of system other people have put on their Ba turbs and results people results if any?

If you put this on your car your going to need to get the wastegate ported and a re-tune at the same time.. othere wise your car will overboost

What mods you planning on doing to the car??


what he said^^
you dont really need an exhaust and dump unless you are chasing over 320ishrwkw, the money is better spent on valve springs, fuel pump, injectors, intercooler, actuator, wastegate port and tuning....

i have a twin 2.5" exhaust with high flow cat (stock dump pipe) on my ute, sounds a little louder than stock, and flows better to.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:50 pm 
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Mr.Kiss wrote:
dansmkII wrote:
Im looking at purchasing a xforce system and wanted to know if it was worth it or what sort of system other people have put on their Ba turbs and results people results if any?

If you put this on your car your going to need to get the wastegate ported and a re-tune at the same time.. othere wise your car will overboost

What mods you planning on doing to the car??


what he said^^
you dont really need an exhaust and dump unless you are chasing over 320ishrwkw, the money is better spent on valve springs, fuel pump, injectors, intercooler, actuator, wastegate port and tuning....

i have a twin 2.5" exhaust with high flow cat (stock dump pipe) on my ute, sounds a little louder than stock, and flows better to.
Yeh OK thanks im only looking at spending between 1500 and 2000 what would you recommend doing for that much and can you recommend anyone.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:05 pm 
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Yeh OK thanks im only looking at spending between 1500 and 2000 what would you recommend doing for that much and can you recommend anyone.

Well if you only plan on spending that much on the car then a wastegate port and re-tune are out of the question..

Just get your self a cat back exhaust, because if you change the cat converter you'll still need a re-tune as your car would over boost..

Does the exhaust have to be 3.5" or are you open to 2x2.5" aswell??

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:34 am 
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First stage for me was:
1. Flash tuner with Generic tune for front mount fitted, 8psi & 10psi. $800
2. Bigger front mount (no new pipes just a straight bolt on swap) $400
Dyno'd and got 238rwkw at GenTech in Canberra.

Next stage:
1. Valve Springs- $800 for Nizpro supplyed & fitted (only did this for a safty precoution, if ur budget is tight u dont HAVE to but it is recommened)
2. Picked up a set of second hand Injectors with less then 10,000km on them for $300
3. Centre muffler cut out for straight through pipping $60 bucks
4. Last and the greatest part, Custom tune with C&V Performance up in Sydney around $700 (that included fitting of the injectors and 3 tunes. Also tuning the gearbox for Bloody hard shifts)

So it really only cost me a little over $3,000 for 270rwkw.

Also i do highly recommend C&V, dont know how they are to everyone else but as a younger bloke asking a few questions they where more then helpfull. I mean even at the Drags that night (freaky friday) the guys where coming up asking me how everything was going and making sure the car was running right

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:41 am 
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dansmkII wrote:
Mr Man wrote:
Mr.Kiss wrote:
dansmkII wrote:
Im looking at purchasing a xforce system and wanted to know if it was worth it or what sort of system other people have put on their Ba turbs and results people results if any?

If you put this on your car your going to need to get the wastegate ported and a re-tune at the same time.. othere wise your car will overboost

What mods you planning on doing to the car??


what he said^^
you dont really need an exhaust and dump unless you are chasing over 320ishrwkw, the money is better spent on valve springs, fuel pump, injectors, intercooler, actuator, wastegate port and tuning....

i have a twin 2.5" exhaust with high flow cat (stock dump pipe) on my ute, sounds a little louder than stock, and flows better to.
Yeh OK thanks im only looking at spending between 1500 and 2000 what would you recommend doing for that much and can you recommend anyone.

for $2k you could get a cooler, injectors and an edit and tune.
something like a wog cooler ($400ish).
injectors (siemens dekas group buy on AFF $350 a set of six http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11217241)
flash tuner ($495ish)
custom tunes ($700ish)
theres your $2k which would see you with 250-280rwkw depending if your valve springs will take it, people say the wog coolers are not good but for 280kw and under they're good bang for buck.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:35 pm 
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:44 pm 
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Thanks for ya help will think about it know anywhere good in perth have seen alot advertised but dont know their rep.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:55 pm 
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what pound injectors should i get and will it be better to get them with a tune/edit and what does this do to fuel consumption
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:00 am 
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dansmkII wrote:
what pound injectors should i get and will it be better to get them with a tune/edit and what does this do to fuel consumption

the bosch 968s (42lbs) and siemens dekas (60lbs) are the most common used in the XR6T, the dekas can be had cheaper though, either will work well, your ecomony after a tune should be better on the highway but of course with a heavy foot you'll use a little more around town.

 

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:38 pm 
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I've got the X-Force 4'' dump and the rest of the system is 3.5''
Sounds great, doesnt drone at all. Got it all for $1000 fitted but here in Melb...
Oh and you'll prob need ur wastegate mod done to asa others have said!
There mite be still a group buy on fordforums for Siemens 60lbs aswell - $350 i think!
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:36 pm 
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from what i have bee told by others on another forum that the stock Zorst is for for 300rkw, get high flow cat and centre muffler removed good for about 330 - 360 rwkw. i know i guy running 310rwkw no probs with the stock zorst..

 

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