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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:57 pm 
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thats basically rite, just found a rod with a smaller "big end" and shorter the ground the crank to suit, i got the crank back 2day,i havnt said to much bout it cos im not 100% it will work fine yet... but hopefully i can get dummyed up soon, then tell u xactlly how it works.
NOT REV IT????
i thought u new me better than that ben!!! lol
wat u want silicon hose for?
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:08 pm 
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if i was to be playing god with a 4l bottom end, i would aim to de-stroke it.. ill watch for the results.

great to see you having a red hot go at this, i have been browsing the scat and eagle catalogs to see what sort of cheap conrod alternatives are out there, be good to find something useable, since you could buy a set of off the shelf rods from the states for about $500-600

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:13 pm 
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yeh mine are four cylinder rods, so i ended up with 8!!!
they were $450 a set. im bout 2 go back to work to measure up the stud diemensions for ARP.
If u want 2 destroke it, wat bout a 3.2L? that would b cool......eerrr mmmm
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:21 pm 
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GRN WGN, to be honest i would now stay away from the toploader, there designed to go behind muscle cars and thats were they should stay!! but cost anyway: (roughly)
Bellhousin standard I6 Modded $150
Clutch 450$
Tailshaft $350 (complete 4" foam filled) overkill
SHifter $650 Renagate seqentual
Box $1000

i would go the C4 route or R154 like esb-4l personally
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:24 pm 
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ebs_4l wrote:
if i was to be playing god with a 4l bottom end, i would aim to de-stroke it.. ill watch for the results.

great to see you having a red hot go at this, i have been browsing the scat and eagle catalogs to see what sort of cheap conrod alternatives are out there, be good to find something useable, since you could buy a set of off the shelf rods from the states for about $500-600


Destroking has been done.

That red caravan towing AIT/AVO EA has a destroked AU 3.6 litre in it. It makes roughly 400rwkw with a T04z. It might be making more now.

Im not sure of the exact details, maybe EFFalcon or Rmyers knows more. Rmyers is mates with the owner.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:42 pm 
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lol ok im wrong after thinking about it a little more. the center line is moved up therefore the rod has to be shorter or the piston pin height needs to be higher.

silicone, i just thourgh i will grab some while im up here, never know when i will need it.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:49 pm 
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Dansedgli wrote:
Destroking has been done.

That red caravan towing AIT/AVO EA has a destroked AU 3.6 litre in it. It makes roughly 400rwkw with a T04z. It might be making more now..

hey dan, yea, i know it has been done, and it has been VERY successful aswell....

one combination i know of uses a 200ci crankshaft... since it extends the rpm limit (reduced piston speed, and reduced piston side-loading) it allows you to make more power using less boost with a higher rpm.. the drop in torque wouldnt be anything to worry about

think about how all the popular jap engines make such incredible HP with seemingly MINISCULE displacement... its all in the RPM

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:56 pm 
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it's f**k expensice silicone sh!te

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:44 am 
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hi guys not much has happened lately due to funds but im starting to look into putting a c series gearbox behind the 6.
i now torque power do bell housing, does any 1 else? not sure bout wat torque converter to use ether.
any guys who have done this got any tips, thing they would change next time round?
thanks
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:02 pm 
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Dellow make a bellhousing as well.

I think someone mentioned that there was quality issues with them on another forum though.

Why have you decided to go auto?
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:45 am 
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the toploader just wasnt wat i wanted, and i dont want the unreliabilty issue's of a T5, i now there's other stronger manuals, but i think going the auto now would be beter for me in the long run.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:01 am 
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How much power are you going for?

Ive been recommended to stay away from a C series and go a glide or a T400 from KEAS for reliabilities sake.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:40 pm 
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why isnt the toploader what you wanted?
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:04 am 
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the toploader i6 didnt seem to have enough torque at take off for it, if id changed the diff ratio to 3:9 or sumtin it would probable been a different story, but it was reving at about 3000 at 110 anyway. plus in just getting lazy :lol:
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:07 am 
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atm i am puttin a decomp head on my stock ef bottom end and want to make bout 250rwkw, but when the strokers built ill push it as hard as i will go!!! over 400rwkw :D
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