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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:36 am 
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Gday everyone, ive just bought a fantastic 97mdl supercharged fairmont rig, its quick, its had alot of work done and i got it for a reasonabe price.

But, the car isnt insurable unless its got an engineers cert, now rego isnt a problem, but before i use it as my daily i am after an engineers certificate.

Does anyone have experience with having a CAPA Powerdyne or similar kit engineered?

Whats required, apart from the kit itself correctly fitted, i know an emissions test is required.

Can someone point me in the best direction for a pocket friendly certificate :)

If i cant get the car engineered the supercharger has to come off :'(
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:09 am 
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I know there is a lot of work involved, ive done a lot so far, i know what else is needed but the more i read the less possible it all seems. And i have read a lot!

So far the car is running:
i6, stock motor, rising rate reg, dual fuel pumps (one under bonnet or something)
Powerdyne SC with 9psi at the moment, considering 6.
Pacemaker extractors
2.5 inch exhaust, twin at rear.
custom 3 inch intake with big bov (stock intake fitted at the mo)
straight through cat, dont get me started here

The cat will def need to be replaced, no questions here.
The kit itself shouldnt be too far off being engineerable, i assUme (get it, a**-u-me, it makes an a** out of you and me)...

Moving on :) Is it within the realms of a few thousand dollars, garanteed? or am i chasing my own tail?

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:28 am 
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PM AXR88U, he is an Engineer and should be able to help.
I believe CAPA made sure their kits were ADR compliant, so maybe contact them as well.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:23 am 
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An engineers cert from NSW isnt transferrable to Vic according to Vicroads unless the rules have changed recently.

Search for VASS signatories on the Vicroads website and start calling around and asking what they require.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:50 am 
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Why not change insurance companys? JustCar didn't mention/ask anything about engineering the blower when I took insurance with them.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:54 am 
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twr7cx: the issue is that because the car has it, even though they cover it, its not roadworthy, hence not insurable :(

Thanks to the other guys :)

Does anyone else know anything?
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:54 am 
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Just cars state that they wont cover you unless your car is roadworthy according to your state authority.

A supercharged falcon isnt RWC according to Vicroads as it isnt engineered.

edit: too slow. :(
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:31 pm 
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Dansedgli wrote:
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edit: too slow. :(

It had to be one of us :P

on another note, i am having a mechanic scrape out the mess at the front of my head gasket and silicone it up, he says he has done 200odd cars that way and not had any problems..

It may be a bandaid, but for the mean time i am strapped for cash, so it has to do :)

I refitted the stock CAPA induction pipe with plumb back, wow that sucks compared to the 3inch intake that was custom made with a bov :)

I am having the custom pipe modded to hook up the the plumb back, legal and more power! Well, legal, for the engineers cert i am chasing in two weeks time :)

Wow today worked out well :)
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:25 pm 
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in WA you can get use the dyno sheet, that shows the AirFuel ratio. if the AFR is good, then they could it as the emissions test
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:00 pm 
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I'm pretty sure that CAPA would have paperwork for emissions compliance. If not its not hard to pass an emissions test for ADR37/00.
In NSW the RTA does testing for free.

Slotted front brake rotors would'nt hurt either, so you can show some sort of brake upgrade.

You would more than likely need a Vicroads certified engineer to do you a report. I know that NSW only accepts report from NSW RTA Signatories.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:37 pm 
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Hey gasman, best of luck with it all mate!

I know we discussed all this via PM a while back, but did you research any of this before you bought the car?

Done any costings on the emissions tests, engineers costs and then costs of changes required?
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:22 pm 
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Matt,
Getting a setup like yours engineered isn't all that hard...i'm going through the process of getting my turbocharged v8 NC engineered and haven't hit any hurdles so far...biggest issue for me is upgrading my brakes...if you need a hand, and your car is the car i think it is... i'm local so if you need a hand just yell out
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:00 pm 
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Sweet, thanks everyone, esp BlownNC (Rick V. mentioned your car the other day).

Yeah i researched it all before i got it, made sure the kit was complete.

All i need for my roadworthy is a 2.5" cat (the one fitted is a straight through job :(
Headgasket is being 'band-aided' for $80 in BGO :D
Have to stick the wheels i have off my other EL on it so Roney wont crucify me :P

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twr7cx wrote:
Why not change insurance companys? JustCar didn't mention/ask anything about engineering the blower when I took insurance with them.


Insurance companies will cover you if the modifcations are legal - ie roadworthy (as it has been said).

Interested to see in how you go with it all -GAS-MAN-

Emissions test is ~$3K JFYI

I am told they trailer your car to their testing facilities (apparently in Laverton somewhere?) at your cost.

They empty the fuel tank and refill with their test fuel. Run some tests (no exact idea on what they do and how long it takes?!).

Then write up a report and let you know whether you passed or just blew $3K for the fun of it :)

VicRoads accredited engineers are all very subjective AFAIK...there is no single set of rules - obviously most modifications for X and Y car are somewhat different / custom, but you will find most engineers have their quirks and are more pedantic on some areas than others.

I have a list of VicRoads accredited engineers if you like...also someone that I have heard is quite cooperative and proactive towards such projects.

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:44 am 
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Could you possibly pm me the name and number of our friendly engineer?
I would forever be grateful, i wont be driving this (much) until its engineered :(

But it will be worth it, wow it rocks!
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