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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:27 pm 
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Is it the oil pump or the oil pump pick up that causes the problem in fitting to el?

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:33 pm 
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dry sump the bastard.
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:03 pm 
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dry sump the bastard.



Don't know about you but I can't s**t blank cheques out that quick. The old sphincter needs a bit of a break every now and then.
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:10 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:21 am 
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yes i under stand what u r saying dude but im telling u the engine that i saw in the car clearly had the sump modifyed i dont care how many pictures u post with engines cut in half ,,i know what i saw and it had a noch cut out of the bottom front of the sump ..how do u know the pump its self hasnt be modifyed for this ,,mate if i didnt see it for myself i would say exacly what u said ..ok so why would u waist the time and money on an engines sump pan to do a mod that will only cause probs un less the dude thought about this before he cut in to it in the first place.i didnt see him do any thing inside the engine so i dont know how he did it ..but he is a fitter so any thing is possible ..also the electrics are being done in a shop the cars main harness is being changed for the ba one from what his mate was saying he had plans to noch the xmember in the first place but saw how it could be done with out doing this ,and took that aproch all i know is it works well with no probs. engine runs with out any bangs or clangs so yeah thats it ,,so if u wana chop ur xmember chop it,, ,,,im dying to get a detailed pic of this so i can shut u all up, som of the guys on here are realy good with info on different topics.very help full ,as for the others i dont realy give a f**k what u say ...if u dont like it then dont f**k read it simple

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:28 am 
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just wana say sorry for getting fired up over this but if u seen a mod on a car that works and evey one says it dont with out seeing it wouldnt u get abit p****d off ......................if its a mod that could be done wouldnt u be curiouse to how its done i know i would just a thought

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:11 am 
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ok just got a email back from the guy who mod u r saying cant be done ..he was told its is ellegal to modify any sub frame including x members or any body section which breaches the structural streigth of the vehicle, any modifcations done to a vehicle which causes structural weakness is deamed unsafe in acordance with the australian laws and regulations any modification wich is done to a vehicle by an unlicenced or unqualifyed person.or persons..i could write every thing down but i feel that its enough in other words by nsw law u cannot cutt the xmember or alter it as its is deamed a structural part of the car and a safty requirement ..the only leagal way is to replace the whole xmember to suit the different engine ...he had three engeneeers who said the same thing and a rta inspector,, so there u have it this is why he decided to go with the sump modification ..and the bonnet is a issue as well ......................

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:03 am 
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1) your an idiot
2) where are these pictures
3) if it was that simple dont you think thats what 50+ people on this forum and others would have done,\
4) learn to spell

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:03 am 
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ok just got a email back from the guy who mod u r saying cant be done ..he was told its is ellegal to modify any sub frame including x members or any body section which breaches the structural streigth of the vehicle, any modifcations done to a vehicle which causes structural weakness is deamed unsafe in acordance with the australian laws and regulations any modification wich is done to a vehicle by an unlicenced or unqualifyed person.or persons..i could write every thing down but i feel that its enough in other words by nsw law u cannot cutt the xmember or alter it as its is deamed a structural part of the car and a safty requirement ..the only leagal way is to replace the whole xmember to suit the different engine ...he had three engeneeers who said the same thing and a rta inspector,, so there u have it this is why he decided to go with the sump modification ..and the bonnet is a issue as well ......................


thats not entirely correct..
i have a modified k frame in my ed that i cut and welded myself and its been engineered by a nsw rta signitory..
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:42 am 
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shane falcon futura wrote:
ok just got a email back from the guy who mod u r saying cant be done ..he was told its is ellegal to modify any sub frame including x members or any body section which breaches the structural streigth of the vehicle, any modifcations done to a vehicle which causes structural weakness is deamed unsafe in acordance with the australian laws and regulations any modification wich is done to a vehicle by an unlicenced or unqualifyed person.or persons..i could write every thing down but i feel that its enough in other words by nsw law u cannot cutt the xmember or alter it as its is deamed a structural part of the car and a safty requirement ..the only leagal way is to replace the whole xmember to suit the different engine ...he had three engeneeers who said the same thing and a rta inspector,, so there u have it this is why he decided to go with the sump modification ..and the bonnet is a issue as well ......................

Why are all the others k frames cut and welded, and still on the road? Because they get the welding done by a proffesional and the engineers know its done correct and they can pass it, if they did it witg their supercheap $59 stick welder in the back yard it would be a different story though

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:25 pm 
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ha ha thats what i like about this web site u are quick to bag out people with out even having seen any proof that it isnt posible ...just for reference jet xr has a few pick of his work and from the coments the car is up for sale because its has been defected because hes cut into the xmember ..as for leons car it was passed on monday fully engeneered ef with a ba turbo engine installed with and il say it again with a smile a modyfide sumpan ..and he said it is posible to modyfy a ba engines sump,its very tight measurments but its doable..weather or not he has modyfide the oil pump components including the pick up is any ones guess ..and from what he said there are a few ef -el around with this mod done ...so u post a pic of an ef with a ba engine in it an show the web its not doable ...again show me any photo of this mod and why it cant be done i wana see a pic of a ba engine in a ef with out the sump pan on it ................you know it all so lets see how it cant be done .....

 

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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:37 pm 
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We all know you are full of s**t.
There is no way in hell you can fit a ba motor in an el bay with an el k frame without modding the k frame. There is NOT enough room to just trim a little off here or there. It NEEDS to be modified. Why dont you open your eyes and look properly at what you're claiming. Way to ruin a thread once again. Can someone just ban this half witted d***head already?

el k-frame (Which pushes the ba motor way through the bonnet)
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And this is a build by a member on here who knows it will not fit and it CANNOT be modded to be made to fit without touching the k-frame. This is a b series k-frame custom fitted to an ed bay
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 Post subject: Re: F6 motor in a EL
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:43 pm 
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sorry troyman thats what the rta guy said this morning ..if its allowed well s**t man id do it to ,so leon done all this work making it legal then u say the rta will pass it even after they said its a safty violation in accordance with the australian motor act ...well what do u do .well mate your the only guy on here that i would trust with this info ...so its legal to cut your x member even when the rta say its ilegal aslong as it looks neat and tidy ...then depending on who checks it its becomes legal,,i know what everyone is saying about this issue but according to the rules and regs from the rta its a safty violation .wtf do the rta make up the rules as they go apparenty they do .any way leons car is legal so its all piss in the wind ,,he will be very p****d off though after doing all this work with the engine any way troy thanks for the info

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:22 pm 
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anyway, here are a few pics of what forman351 did when he put the dohc into his el..

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