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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:03 am 
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dude that idea is awesome! i reckon do it :)

 

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:07 am 
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well initial inspection doesn't look good..

I'd completely forgotten that the oil filter sits right behind the air compressor.

I'll have to check on the motor in the car,l (as opposed to the motors on the floor in my shed) to see what the clearances are.. it might still be doable depending on the space between the oil filter and the body of the car.

If there was a way to add a second pully to the crank pulley, that might actually allow it to stick out enough to actually fit down there.. guess I'll find out tomorrow.
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:48 am 
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Stay the course Frank,think of the good it will do.

 

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:21 pm 
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REMOTE oil filter

easy fix

 

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:47 pm 
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yeah.... I thought about that.. but just looking now.. the bracket for the EL air con sets it out a fair ways.. and it almost clears the filter where it is now..

if put in on an angle.. (close to that of the filter) it may well fit in fine.. just need to check the clearance to the rails of the car.

If a remote oil filter does become necessary.. where would I find the relevant adaptor.. (I'm assuming its a inch think plate of some kind that goes where the filter is now and has pipes and a new adaptpr on the end?
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:47 pm 
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any good speed shop should be able to get one in for you

pretty much what u said

if u want a ford one get one from the AU T3 5.6 litre stroker

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:03 am 
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hmmmm, I'm planning on doing some more indepth measuring up tomorrow.. but right now, there seems to be a great deal of room over my extractors.. If I put two heat shields over them.. it would be an option to put it there also... have to see which method is easier.
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:35 am 
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yer that has been done as well
but usually with custom headers to bring the front 2-3 cyl primaries right back

 

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Well, if I moved the power steering pump.. It has about 2 inches more gap than above the intake.. so it would definitely fit..

I don't like the position as much as where the air con is.. but it looks like it might be easier..
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:12 pm 
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ok so moive the ps pump to where?

 

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i'd say moving the p/s pump would be harder. that would require probably custom made hoses and a new bracket. Those high pressure hoses aren't cheap, specially if you need a custom one made up.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:39 pm 
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True.. and when I looked last night.. without the oil filter in the way.. I'm almost positive the charger will fit where the air compressor was.. I'd much prefer that, because the air con hoses are flexible and it is small enough to go over the intake manifold, and the whole charger will be almost invisible.

Now I just have to find a remote filter attachment..

Another upside to this, is that replacing the compressor with the blower will mean I can use the standard belt and stuff until I need the air con again.
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:21 pm 
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Hey guys,

Do you rekkon this would fit a falcon 6???

http://www.jegs.com/i/Trans+Dapt/969/11 ... 9339|10467

If so.. thats great because amazon has them for less than 50 bucks...

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I did some checking and that 1113 page lists motors that use the PH8A ford filter..

According to this page:
http://www.rycofilters.com.au/catalogue/xref/xref/PH8A

That filter is equiv to the Ryco Z9.. which is the filter I've been putting into my Falcon for years...

So tentatively, I think this is the one I need.. and it's pretty cheap too by the look of it.

I won't order it yet just in case someone here knows something about it that I don't.

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:28 pm 
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Ok, some size up photos..

Here is a general one that shows the relative lengths..
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As you can see, the charger is bigger than it looks by itself.

This conversion might actually work better with the BBM manifold than it would have with the Log.. if only because the log sits lower. (god knows where I'm gonna put the air compressor later though.. probably under the SC if the oil filter is moved away.

Now, if the charger was to sit at the same angle that the oil filter is now.. the only things stopping it are the metal heater pipe (which I've already bent up out of the way) and the cable plug on the dizzy... which I might be able to do something about.

Almost positive it will fit.. I may have to swap that side to a standard ED engine mount though as they are smaller and might give me more clearance.

Here is a closer shot, keep in mind that the heater pipe has since been easily moved upwards a few inchs out of the way.

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I seriously doubt this would be doable with the log manifold, but with the BBM, I might just be able to make one big plate and from that mount the charger (angled in) and the compressor under it. I won't know about the compressor until I check the clearances at the top edge of the sump to the body rails.

Not sure what I can do about the connector for the Dizzy.. I have a spare to play with, so will see.

Thoughts anyone?

The first step I can see here, is to get an oil filter re-locater kit and get the oil filter out of there.. then I can get the outlet pipes on the M90 changed to suit the new position (back one needs to be turned around)

Fun.... if worse comes to worse,, maybe I'll go looking for an electric compressor and ditch the mechanicle one altogether.. that might even allow me to keep the existing belt arrangement altogether.

Here is my two minute image edit, to see if I can get an idea of how it would fit.. both items are two scale too so it will be moderately accurate.

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