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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:27 pm 
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howdy, im pretty new to this part of the site so go easy on me,

anyway, i have an eb 5speed, with reasonably worked motor (20thou over pistons, acl bearings, 45thou off head, bigger cam, bigger exhaust valves) but im after a bit more power and a few of my mates have said to get a 4AGE supercharger for it. i talked to my mechanic and he said that for the total setup i would be lookin at around $2500. plus BBM (if i want it)

just wondering what you guys thought and if you could give me some pros and cons

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also some detailedinfo on what is going to need to be done would be great thanx.

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:42 pm 
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That blower is way too small for your combo IMO...
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:29 pm 
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:30 pm 
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The 4age is only a 1.6 isnt it? Compared tot he 4 litre falcon. I doubt it would do much, youd be better off going for something larger!

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:57 pm 
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look for an eaton m90 or something...
find a wrecked commonwhore (shouldnt be hard)
thats got a supercharger and that should do....
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:10 pm 
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What psi level are those supercharged commodores (heap of sH$TS) running? they only put out like 171 fwkw and piss all tourqe.

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:21 pm 
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they run 6PSI boost stock

as for piss all torque? they make a fair bit, i belive those blowers are not linear boost, their on full boost by like 2500 rpm?

those cars can run 12's with 17psi, intercooler, rockers and exhaust

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:29 pm 
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My mate had one of those vy supercharged things it didnt go that good he traded it off and with a little bit more cash he got a mk2 XR6T it went a hell of alot better. They needed turbos inplace of superchargers i think.

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:27 am 
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4AGZE is the s/c engine...
Even the s/c off the 2 ltr Toyota 6 is too small for 4.0...

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:29 am 
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But a pair of them.....

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:02 am 
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Maybe...
But I certainly wouldn't want to be the one trying to squeeze two of them in there and piping it all up!

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:15 am 
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Yep teh sc-12 charger off the 4agze is deffiantely too small, a few people have used the sc-14 off the 1g-gze and i believe castle main rod shop have a kit for the xf. Although only small boost levels and power can be achieved. Best just save and get a snort stage 1 turbo kit or somethiong.

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:21 pm 
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i dont mean to argue,

but are you sure that it is off a 1.6 litre because i was told it was off a 3 litre, and i was warned that the boost i would probably max out around 6-8psi, but that was all i was after.

also i was talking to another guy at my mechanics the other day (he was just another cstomer) and he said he used to have 2 of them on his old ed, he said they cut they cut off the top half of his intake manifold and put them back to back. aparently that was putting aout a little under 400rwkw.

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:54 pm 
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A 4AGE is definetely a 1.6L engine out of Corolla and 4AGZE is definetely the s/c variant of the engine as EBXR8380 has mentioned. I'm a bit sceptical of that twin supercharged ED's figures and the advice and ideas you are being given by your mechanic. An EB-AU stage 2 Snort Performance turbo system would be a wiser choice for $2500.

http://www.snortperformance.com/ford_fa ... o_kits.htm
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:21 pm 
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Here is a quote directly froma technical document on www.toymods.org.au

"Toyota engine codes are split into two sections, the bit before the dash, and the bit after it (eg: 2JZ-GTE).

Before the dash.
The letters signify the "family" or "series" of the engine. The numbers signify a revision of the bottom end (ie: bore, stoke, block). Higher numbers don't necessarily mean a larger block.
For example, the twin turbo engines in modern Supras are the 1JZ-GTE and 2JZ-GTE. The 1JZ is a 2.5L engine, while the 2JZ is a 3.0L. Both are twin turbo inline sixes.
After the dash.
The letters after the dash specify the features of the engine.
G - Wide angle Twin Cam (sportier head)
F - Narrow angle Twin Cam (economical head)
T - Turbocharged
Z - Supercharged
E - Electronic Fuel Injection
U - Emissions control (Japanese)
C - Emissions control (Californian).

Sample Engines And Their Codes
These are a few engines that can be found in our members' cars.
4A-GE: 1.6L DOHC EFI 16V inline four cylinder
4A-GE (20 Valve): 1.6L DOHC EFI 20V inline four cylinder
4A-GZE: 1.6L DOHC EFI 16V supercharged inline four cylinder
7A-FE: 1.8L DOHC EFI 16V inline four cylinder
1G-GTE: 2.0L DOHC EFI 24V intercooled twin turbo inline six cylinder
3/4K-C: 1.3L OHV Carby 8V inline four cylinder (4K block, 3K head)
5M-E: 2.8L SOHC EFI 12V inline six cylinder
7M-GTE: 3.0L DOHC EFI 24V turbocharged inline six cylinder
18R-C: 2.0L SOHC Carby 8V inline four cylinder
18R-GEU: 2.0L DOHC EFI 8V inline four cylinder
3S-GE / 3S-FE: 2.0L DOHC EFI 16V inline four cylinder
3S-GTE: 2.0L DOHC EFI 16V turbocharged inline four cylinder
2T-G: 1.6L DOHC 8V inline four cylinder"

I also verymuch doubt the figures that guy quoted for the ed. 400rwkw takes a very serious turbo build to achieve. I was planing on using one of the sc-14 blowers on my ea a few years back untill i was told by many places that i wouldnt be able to achieve
any higher then 160rwkw.

 

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