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looking for 0-100 is supercharging a better way to do this because of the no turbo lag?
if so would anyone recomend the twin screw as it seems to have no lag like a centrifugal superhcarger but has more air flow then a superhcarger such as an eaton
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Whats your budget?
Twin screw superchargers are expensive. |
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well im thinking 5grand or less
something that i can build on so after time i can keep upgrading and what not and i did manage to find s/c on ebay upgraded ones that suite the svt mustang capable of between 13psi and 30 there about 4grand just the s/c its self
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Then you need to buy the s**t to fit it all or make your own adapter plate to intake manifold setup.
It will need to be intercooled to run that much boost. How much power do you want? 0-100 times mean nothing. A rwd car with decent power cant get traction on the street on regular street tyres doing under 100 anyway. If you want to build on it I'd go turbo. $5k would get you a decent turbo and manifold running with a cheapo 12:1 fuel reg for fueling. The supercharger options are limited to lower power levels in that price range and apart from Snort's new whipple kits (which are still being made) no-one does a twin screw. Turbo it then do ECU, injectors, bottom end, transmission as stuff breaks. Choose a correctly sized turbo and lag wont be much of an issue. |
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compression has already been raised in my car tho to something like 11.5 according to someone
i would say something more like 10.5 well i dont have a drag strip so 0-100 is all i have i will worry about traction when i have the power what boost do u recomend that wouldent need intercooling? im not fussed on thr rwkw more so i want all of my useable power from 0-100 but i would like to have a massive kick of power if i flawed it also not a fan of the turbo sound and the whole spool thing either
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Maybe you can get an electric supercharger? They dont make turbo noises or spool up and are cheap.
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whats your supercharger like when you go to flaw it?
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lol @ 17yo that wants boost for no money.
Do some research in the other threads here, find out there's no such thing as cheap. I've got a turbo kit that's for sale, come in under your budget too. But if must be a hoon on public streets, only care about 0-100 and want cheap. go NOS. (it'll get the gangas wet too).
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paulos wrote: whats your supercharger like when you go to flaw it? I cant flaw it, its pretty good. |
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i dont think you will get your car turbo/supercharged reliably under 5g ..
the cheapest would be centrifugal kit.. even then with any added things like tuning,intercooling exhaust ect.. things add up fast.. then you will have problems with how much can your 15 year old gearbox and diff handle.. then you have a car that accelerates fast but now you need to stop it.. also how many kms are on your engine?? if its an old engine with alot of kms a poor tune will kill it fast... so in my opinion be prepaired to spend atleast 8 to 10g |
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TROYMAN wrote: i dont think you will get your car turbo/supercharged reliably under 5g .. the cheapest would be centrifugal kit.. even then with any added things like tuning,intercooling exhaust ect.. things add up fast.. then you will have problems with how much can your 15 year old gearbox and diff handle.. then you have a car that accelerates fast but now you need to stop it.. also how many kms are on your engine?? if its an old engine with alot of kms a poor tune will kill it fast... so in my opinion be prepaired to spend atleast 8 to 10g I disagree, A snort entry level turbo kit is $3000 Fuel pump and regulator say $500 J3 with tune $200 Odds and ends and dyno run around $1000 Thats assuming you could do it all yourself As for it being reliable though, yeah itd be pushing it for $5K Snort will be doing the M112 kits soon for $3000 aswell so itll be the same as turbo with the other odds and ends If youre good at welding and stuff, you could get an M90 or M112 out of the USA for $200 or so, fabricate everything yourself and have it in and going for <$2000.
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93_eb_fairmont wrote: I disagree, Have you built or owned a turbo or supercharged E series? |
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Dansedgli wrote: 93_eb_fairmont wrote: I disagree, Have you built or owned a turbo or supercharged E series? That's a good point, but it definitely can be done, but as I said, not reliably and doing everything yourself. Things like a 3in exhaust and stuff like that wouldn't be covered but you could definitely get a small entry level turbo running on an e series for $5K.
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93_eb_fairmont wrote: TROYMAN wrote: i dont think you will get your car turbo/supercharged reliably under 5g .. the cheapest would be centrifugal kit.. even then with any added things like tuning,intercooling exhaust ect.. things add up fast.. then you will have problems with how much can your 15 year old gearbox and diff handle.. then you have a car that accelerates fast but now you need to stop it.. also how many kms are on your engine?? if its an old engine with alot of kms a poor tune will kill it fast... so in my opinion be prepaired to spend atleast 8 to 10g I disagree, A snort entry level turbo kit is $3000 Fuel pump and regulator say $500 J3 with tune $200 Odds and ends and dyno run around $1000 Thats assuming you could do it all yourself As for it being reliable though, yeah itd be pushing it for $5K Snort will be doing the M112 kits soon for $3000 aswell so itll be the same as turbo with the other odds and ends If youre good at welding and stuff, you could get an M90 or M112 out of the USA for $200 or so, fabricate everything yourself and have it in and going for <$2000. you forgot about the software to tune the J3 when your tuning it on the dyno
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93_eb_fairmont wrote: TROYMAN wrote: i dont think you will get your car turbo/supercharged reliably under 5g .. the cheapest would be centrifugal kit.. even then with any added things like tuning,intercooling exhaust ect.. things add up fast.. then you will have problems with how much can your 15 year old gearbox and diff handle.. then you have a car that accelerates fast but now you need to stop it.. also how many kms are on your engine?? if its an old engine with alot of kms a poor tune will kill it fast... so in my opinion be prepaired to spend atleast 8 to 10g I disagree, A snort entry level turbo kit is $3000 Fuel pump and regulator say $500 J3 with tune $200 Odds and ends and dyno run around $1000 Thats assuming you could do it all yourself As for it being reliable though, yeah itd be pushing it for $5K Snort will be doing the M112 kits soon for $3000 aswell so itll be the same as turbo with the other odds and ends If youre good at welding and stuff, you could get an M90 or M112 out of the USA for $200 or so, fabricate everything yourself and have it in and going for <$2000. with any type of forced induction reliability is a major factor.. there is no point saying i turbo/supercharged my car and it goes hard, but it then dies in the a** due to a poor or no tune, you will end up constantly chasing your a** fixing and upgrading things. the car will spend more time off the road than on the road.. you forget that the snort kit still needs some work in regards to pipework, intercooler mounting ect not to mention other modifications like exhaust, then i would like to see a j3 suplied and dyno tuned for $200..  just for a decent dyno tune your looking at between $400 and $700..not to mention any little problems that will pop up.. also snort supercharger kits are now $3900 but i cant say how complete the kits are?? maybe dansedgli could shed a little light on that subject considering he has just fitted a snort m112 kit.... |
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